Russell Wilson a Bronco
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Fans of teams can love or hate the same player. Wilson is a super bowl winner so you would think every Hawk fan would think he's the best. It was suggest that the Seahawks draft Mond as a backup possible future starter and was written for fansided by Lee Vowell.
Mond’s athleticism might be decent for college but not enough for the NFL and fast edge rushers. Mond did play in the SEC so he is used to some speed but not always NFL speed. He also only played in a system where he was in shotgun. While this might have been ideal in recent years for Seattle, new offensive coordinator Shane Waldron might not always want Wilson, or whoever backs him up, in shotgun. Mond also needs to work on creating plays after the designed one breaks down.
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big sal
2 February, 2021
yes we need another qb who throws for 167 yards a game...he will be just like wilson who is a fraud...seattle fans do not know what a great qb is...so get another qb who throws for 160-170 yards a game and the mindless minions will be thrilled...wilson stinks
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3 February, 2021
Probably better than Russell wilson
OliveFish
3 February, 2021
Trade wilson for a jelly donut...they are yummy
GreenFlask
2 February, 2021
FRAUDSTER wilson stinks
I mean even Aaron Rodgers is at least consistent. Comes across as a colossal jerk. Every time. I don't even know who Wilson is half the time. Constantly wanted the spotlight on him. Or ppl close to him did. I won't miss that part at all tbh
— Dave “Softy” Mahler (@Softykjr) March 9, 2022
See all fans have an opinion and some of these could be baiters. IMO Wilson is a good QB who won a Super Bowl and then threw the pick to Butler which ended another one. But people shouldn't take anything away from that LOB defense. They were one of the all time best in the history of the NFL. They were like Ryan's Bears and our own PPE in 69,70 and 71.
We go through the same. Some think Kirk sucks but expect something in a trade. Others think he sucks and we couldn't trade him for anything. I see him as the best since Fran. Of course that's a comparison to a bunch of stiffs but it's my thought. Bottom line if our D is fixed quickly and that can happen we will have no chance if we have nothing at QB. I've seen that act for decades. We also should never pass on a top talented QB that falls to us. We have always missed that opportunity also. Unfortunately there are no QBs in this draft. So it's extend Kirk or punt him out the door and start a rebuild with nothing in the hole to play QB.
Mond’s athleticism might be decent for college but not enough for the NFL and fast edge rushers. Mond did play in the SEC so he is used to some speed but not always NFL speed. He also only played in a system where he was in shotgun. While this might have been ideal in recent years for Seattle, new offensive coordinator Shane Waldron might not always want Wilson, or whoever backs him up, in shotgun. Mond also needs to work on creating plays after the designed one breaks down.
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big sal
2 February, 2021
yes we need another qb who throws for 167 yards a game...he will be just like wilson who is a fraud...seattle fans do not know what a great qb is...so get another qb who throws for 160-170 yards a game and the mindless minions will be thrilled...wilson stinks
Lol
3 February, 2021
Probably better than Russell wilson
OliveFish
3 February, 2021
Trade wilson for a jelly donut...they are yummy
GreenFlask
2 February, 2021
FRAUDSTER wilson stinks
I mean even Aaron Rodgers is at least consistent. Comes across as a colossal jerk. Every time. I don't even know who Wilson is half the time. Constantly wanted the spotlight on him. Or ppl close to him did. I won't miss that part at all tbh
— Dave “Softy” Mahler (@Softykjr) March 9, 2022
See all fans have an opinion and some of these could be baiters. IMO Wilson is a good QB who won a Super Bowl and then threw the pick to Butler which ended another one. But people shouldn't take anything away from that LOB defense. They were one of the all time best in the history of the NFL. They were like Ryan's Bears and our own PPE in 69,70 and 71.
We go through the same. Some think Kirk sucks but expect something in a trade. Others think he sucks and we couldn't trade him for anything. I see him as the best since Fran. Of course that's a comparison to a bunch of stiffs but it's my thought. Bottom line if our D is fixed quickly and that can happen we will have no chance if we have nothing at QB. I've seen that act for decades. We also should never pass on a top talented QB that falls to us. We have always missed that opportunity also. Unfortunately there are no QBs in this draft. So it's extend Kirk or punt him out the door and start a rebuild with nothing in the hole to play QB.
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There is about a 10% chance of that happening but it might.Texas Vike wrote: ↑Thu Mar 10, 2022 9:06 amOr maybe they'll pluck their next franchise QB in the 3rd round again, win a SB with him and then trade him when he's in his 30s for a massive haul of picks (again).Maelstrom88 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 09, 2022 4:16 pm I think Denver won the trade but it depends on who Seattle drafts. The odds are Seattle won't get any studs with those picks while the Broncos contend for a Super Bowl immediately.
Side note: I totally made up the 10% number and after research I was right. I had to pat myself on the back for that one.
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Maybe our OL is better. We had 31 offensive holding calls and Denver had 16. Holding hurts an offense. Of course some will say it don't matter. (https://www.nflpenalties.com/penalty/of ... ?year=2021) Here's an interesting one %First Downs, Pass on 3rd Down. Stafford was No 1 at 52.5, No 2 Mahomes 51.0.....No 11 MVP Rodgers 43.7.. our stiff Cousins No. 17 40.2 and the great Wilson No 19 39.8. That don't look to good for Wilson. Never thought the stiff Cousins would be better at something especially a pressure 3rd down conversion rate but there it is. I'm sure Wilson blamed everything but him. Neither looks to good under pressure. Brady was better than both of course.StumpHunter wrote: ↑Wed Mar 09, 2022 7:36 amThe Vikings' Oline gave up the 4th fewest sacks and 13th fewest pressures last season, and were better at both than the Denver Broncos' Oline. Plus the Vikings' have the better WRs by a significant margin. Not to mention the Vikings play in a significantly weaker division.CharVike wrote: ↑Wed Mar 09, 2022 12:43 am
If you were Wilson would you want to come here? No OL he was #### about the Hawks OL. No D and then no 1st rounder for a couple of years. I imagine he would like another shot at a Super Bowl before it's over for him. Denver has a good D. The biggest problem was scoring. That should be fixed now.
Defense you have a point, but I don't think that is nearly as important to Wilson as what is on offense.
PFF WR cores for pre 2021 we were ranked No 6 and Denver ranked No 7 https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-ranking-al ... 021-season. So based on PFF I don't see this huge advantage. The Bucs were ranked No 1.
Hopefully our guy G Holder Olli is thrown in the garbage bin quickly.
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I don't see Denver as a Super Bowl contender with Wilson. Wilson isn't what he used to be. I could be wrong. Time will tell.Maelstrom88 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 09, 2022 4:16 pm I think Denver won the trade but it depends on who Seattle drafts. The odds are Seattle won't get any studs with those picks while the Broncos contend for a Super Bowl immediately.
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Do you think SF is comfortable starting Trey Lance this year? If not, why are folks convinced Jimmy G is going to be traded? Also if not, are we sure SF is sold on Lance longterm if they have little confidence in him short term?
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Wilson is a media king. Once the LOB was finished he never lead them back to the show. He thinks he's the star. Rips his OL in public and don't think those guys weren't like F you a hole. That's a me player. Certainly not a leader.VikingsVictorious wrote: ↑Thu Mar 10, 2022 5:21 pmI don't see Denver as a Super Bowl contender with Wilson. Wilson isn't what he used to be. I could be wrong. Time will tell.Maelstrom88 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 09, 2022 4:16 pm I think Denver won the trade but it depends on who Seattle drafts. The odds are Seattle won't get any studs with those picks while the Broncos contend for a Super Bowl immediately.
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He has more SB appearances than Rodgers and Brees.CharVike wrote: ↑Sat Mar 12, 2022 7:09 pmWilson is a media king. Once the LOB was finished he never lead them back to the show.VikingsVictorious wrote: ↑Thu Mar 10, 2022 5:21 pm
I don't see Denver as a Super Bowl contender with Wilson. Wilson isn't what he used to be. I could be wrong. Time will tell.
Do you have the same criticism for them?
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Why are you bringing other players into this. It was a Wilson to Broncos thread. Wilson own teammates criticized him for the same thing. The LOB was one of the all time greats. Your a stat guy look it up. They gave up 6 in the SB. The LOB wasn't a Zim type that folded against the good teams. They played tough no matter who the opponent was. Wilson as a 2nd year guy helped them make the Super Bowl. He helped I don't question that. But I also give the LOB credit also. You are the opposite it was all Wilson. It was an entire team and they were good on every level including ST.StumpHunter wrote: ↑Sat Mar 12, 2022 8:00 pmHe has more SB appearances than Rodgers and Brees.
Do you have the same criticism for them?
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It wouldn't be possible to have the same criticism for them. Neither of them had the LOB.StumpHunter wrote: ↑Sat Mar 12, 2022 8:00 pmHe has more SB appearances than Rodgers and Brees.
Do you have the same criticism for them?
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No, but neither has had to play with the terrible olines Wilson has, and Rodgers needed a great defense to win his SB, while Brees needed cheating to get there and win his.VikingsVictorious wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 9:35 amIt wouldn't be possible to have the same criticism for them. Neither of them had the LOB.StumpHunter wrote: ↑Sat Mar 12, 2022 8:00 pm
He has more SB appearances than Rodgers and Brees.
Do you have the same criticism for them?
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So criticizing them is possible, but not the same criticism.StumpHunter wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 11:36 amNo, but neither has had to play with the terrible olines Wilson has, and Rodgers needed a great defense to win his SB, while Brees needed cheating to get there and win his.VikingsVictorious wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 9:35 am
It wouldn't be possible to have the same criticism for them. Neither of them had the LOB.