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J. Kapp 11 wrote:No worries, buddy. Sounds like a rough day. I'd be in a mood, too.

Here's to a much better start to 2015 than your finish to 2014 has been!
Thank you and thanks for understanding. You should have seen me last night. I was ready to go postal! :lol:
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Mothman wrote:It's hard for me to swallow a line about how much the Vikes offense improved after the first Bears game when I just sat and watched them play a similarly ineffective game against the same team in the last game of the season!
Here's where we can agree wholeheartedly.

I love Teddy's improvement, especially when I've seen improvements in specific fundamentals that I felt he was in need of. I love it when guys like Jarius Wright and Chase Ford contribute. That's all great. But if it doesn't result in points and wins, it's just a bunch of stats.

My hope is that Teddy will take the next step, which in my opinion is to be more than just an effective passer. It's to be a guy who leads the team and puts points on the board. With a guy like Teddy who is so low-key, the leadership aspects often can't be seen ... but when a team is putting points on the board, then that leadership is evident. That's what I'll be looking for out of Teddy next season.
Mothman wrote:It's particularly difficult because it involves the Bears and having spent my whole life living in "Bears territory", that rivalry is particularly important to me.
Again, we find ourselves in agreement. I can't place my finger on why, but I loathe the Bears. Love the Cubs, but hate the Bears more than any team.
Mothman wrote:As for the stats, you know how I feel about PFF...
Me too. I think PFF stats make interesting conversation pieces, but when actual NFL teams begin subscribing to and relying on a service that employs anybody who is willing to do "analysis" for nothing -- that's just wrong.

All you have to do is go to their website and look at their hiring policy to see that their analysts have zero credentials. PFF will literally take anybody to analyze film -- they just won't pay for it.

If they really wanted to be legitimate, they'd charge a lot more for the service, but hire actual NFL scouts or former players and coaches to do the analysis. But they won't. And why? Because a scant few can sit back and make a killing by deploying an army of fools who are willing to do their slave labor. We're talking about a bunch of Uncle Ricos who continue to secretly wish the coach would have put them in so they could've won state. Football junkies who desperately want people to think they know what they're talking about. So they work for nothing.

How's THAT for a PFF rant?
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J. Kapp 11 wrote:Here's where we can agree wholeheartedly.

I love Teddy's improvement, especially when I've seen improvements in specific fundamentals that I felt he was in need of. I love it when guys like Jarius Wright and Chase Ford contribute. That's all great. But if it doesn't result in points and wins, it's just a bunch of stats.

My hope is that Teddy will take the next step, which in my opinion is to be more than just an effective passer. It's to be a guy who leads the team and puts points on the board. With a guy like Teddy who is so low-key, the leadership aspects often can't be seen ... but when a team is putting points on the board, then that leadership is evident. That's what I'll be looking for out of Teddy next season.
Well said. That's exactly how I feel about it. It's what I'll be looking for too and I saw an awful lot of potential in him this year so I think he might be able to have that kind of season in 2015.
Again, we find ourselves in agreement. I can't place my finger on why, but I loathe the Bears. Love the Cubs, but hate the Bears more than any team.
LOL! I know you do. You definitely hate them more than I do. Heck, I don't even hate them. I like them better than the Packers or Lions. I just really want the Vikes to beat them every year. It's the most meaningful Vikings rivalry for me.
Me too. I think PFF stats make interesting conversation pieces, but when actual NFL teams begin subscribing to and relying on a service that employs anybody who is willing to do "analysis" for nothing -- that's just wrong.

All you have to do is go to their website and look at their hiring policy to see that their analysts have zero credentials. PFF will literally take anybody to analyze film -- they just won't pay for it.

If they really wanted to be legitimate, they'd charge a lot more for the service, but hire actual NFL scouts or former players and coaches to do the analysis. But they won't. And why? Because a scant few can sit back and make a killing by deploying an army of fools who are willing to do their slave labor. We're talking about a bunch of Uncle Ricos who continue to secretly wish the coach would have put them in so they could've won state. Football junkies who desperately want people to think they know what they're talking about. So they work for nothing.

How's THAT for a PFF rant?
Honestly? It was awesome. :)
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Wow listen to these guys participating in some good old fashioned baiting :D


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frosted wrote:Wow listen to these guys participating in some good old fashioned baiting :D


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Yeah, you could say that they are a couple of masterbaiters 8)
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frosted wrote:Wow listen to these guys participating in some good old fashioned baiting :D
I'm sure you meant debating and autocorrect just provided the wrong word, right? ;)
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Something like that haha ..


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Room for improvement, but promising from the young Rook.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300000 ... d-rankings
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CbusVikesFan wrote:Room for improvement, but promising from the young Rook.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300000 ... d-rankings
Bridgewater has been compared to Smith and Dalton, but he showed a higher ceiling with his play down the stretch. He just has the look of a player that will be around for the next decade.
That seems to be the general sentiment... I can barely remember what it's like for the Vikings to have that kind of stability at QB. It would sure be nice to see it again.
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Mothman wrote: That seems to be the general sentiment... I can barely remember what it's like for the Vikings to have that kind of stability at QB. It would sure be nice to see it again.
Can I get an AMEN?! :D
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Mothman wrote: That seems to be the general sentiment... I can barely remember what it's like for the Vikings to have that kind of stability at QB. It would sure be nice to see it again.
My favorite part ... Teddy's ranked ahead of Jay Cutler. :thumbsup:
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Laughing at Kapp's Uncle Rico reference.
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CbusVikesFan wrote:Room for improvement, but promising from the young Rook.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300000 ... d-rankings
I was thinking that this article might warrant its own discussion. I know we're all 'wearing purple goggles' here, but I think the ranking for Bridgewater is pretty low. If you are doing a subjective ranking (that is, not just going off of QB rankings and such) I don't see how you wouldn't put Bridgewater higher.
1. Aaron Rodgers (5)
2. Tom Brady (4)
3. Ben Roethlisberger (6)
4. Peyton Manning (1)
5. Tony Romo (12)
6. Andrew Luck (7)
You can't argue that these guys don't deserve to be at the top.
7. Philip Rivers (2)
8. Russell Wilson (6)
9. Matt Ryan (11)
10. Drew Brees (3)
I think Wilson is a great QB, without many weapons to throw to, and an offense that is run-first. I think he is elite, and belongs in the upper group. Rivers is flawed to me, and Ryan seems more like a stat guy than a winner (like Stafford, down further). Still, from a historical perspective, I can see these guys being above Teddy.
11. Joe Flacco (16)
12. Eli Manning (20)
13. Ryan Tannehill (14)
14. Cam Newton (8)
15. Alex Smith (17)
16. Colin Kaepernick (15)
17. Matthew Stafford (13)
18. Teddy Bridgewater (N/A)
Here's where I start to raise my eyebrows. Flacco and Manning are hard to judge - great playoff QB's who tend to be pretty erratic regular season QB's. Are they lucky in the playoffs, or does their game truly rise to Hall of Fame levels for elimination games? Kaepernick?!? I thought Kyle Orton outplayed him for most of the season. The 49'ers offense was pretty bad, much worse than ours, despite having a better offensive line, two better running backs (Gore and Hyde), and probably better receivers (Vernon Davis, Crabtree, Boldin).

The rest of the guys (13-17) - I wouldn't want any of them on my team if I was hoping to win a Superbowl. So for me, on this list, I have Teddy as #12 (with Matt Ryan just below him).

The other question that comes to mind is: "Who would you trade Teddy Bridgewater for, one for one, on this list?" For me, given the age of so many of the top QB's, I would only choose Rodgers, Wilson, and Luck (...and Luck was pretty ordinary at the end of the year). I wouldn't give up a potential decade of great QB play of Tom Brady's last two "elite" years - at least, not with this offensive line giving up sacks at this rate.
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The Breeze wrote:Laughing at Kapp's Uncle Rico reference.
I was hoping somebody would catch that!

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J. Kapp 11 wrote: I was hoping somebody would catch that!

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Ahhh....that's some funny chit.
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