Peterson plea deal...

[Texas Vike]

I don't get why someone who has money is expected to pay a larger fine for a crime/infraction that has a predetermined amount. That's not fair at all.
If the crime was of a financial matter and lawsuits were involved then there is probably some dynamic number up to the judge, but a misdemeanor is a misdemeanor and is standard for everyone. Should an athlete pay 10x times what anyone else does for running a stop sign? just because they have money? and i'm not comparing what he did to running a stop sign, rather the level of conviction he got from the legal system.

Also, no one, except the people involved, would have heard about this case had not AD been such a public figure....if anything his status and money are bringing considerably more impact to his life and revenue. All his sponsors have dropped him. His credibility and image in the realm of his public persona has been tainted...forever for some people. Every single day people are in court for this issue somewhere....and there are many outcomes based on evidence and what kinds of cases they are. Rich people, poor people what have you....they are all people. Isn't that the truth?

I'm not seeing how extracting more and more money from him makes this any more just......or scripting how he should feel and respond to the situation in order for him to be clear in his own conscience.

talk about arm chair quarter backing

If I were talented with photo shop (and had lots of spare time) I'd post a picture of an arm chair with 3/4 of its backing missing and ask if that's what you meant.

Just kidding, Breeze. Good post. I agree.

[The Breeze]

If I were talented with photo shop (and had lots of spare time) I'd post a picture of an arm chair with 3/4 of its backing missing and ask if that's what you meant.

Just kidding, Breeze. Good post. I agree.

I'm a little spacey today

[denburch]

My feeling is that the mother who originally brought it to court is satisfied, and says it is still okay for A.D. to see his son. Why isn't that good enough for us? Let him pay his fine with the NFL and let's move on.

[PurpleMustReign]

My feeling is that the mother who originally brought it to court is satisfied, and says it is still okay for A.D. to see his son. Why isn't that good enough for us? Let him pay his fine with the NFL and let's move on.

It's pretty bad when the mother of the child shows more compassion than some football fans. Idk.

[J. Kapp 11]

We aernt talking about messing up in a relationship.

Sure we are. On every level -- with fans, with the Vikings, with the league, with endorsees, with his son, with the child's mother. Adrian messed up. He has to do what's needed to restore relationships. You don't get to make that call except for your own personal fandom.

And I haven't seen, what I consider to be, true remorse. For scarring a kid for life. And I haven't heard any adequate apology made yet, about how wrong he was, and what a horrible thing he did. With no excuses.

And you're entitled to that opinion. No offense, but your opinion doesn't matter nearly as much as his child's, or the child's mother, or his teammates.

But im wasting my breathe on this one. It sure would be nice if the rest of us could plea something equally repulsive down. But we can, because we aren't millionaires.

Others have already said this, but it bears repeating ... Adrian's notoriety undoubtedly brought him more scrutiny than the average person would ever face. The sad truth is that thousands of other a$$holes around the USA are beating their kids every day, and nothing will ever happen because nobody cares ... because they're nobody. Adrian is somebody, so he gets plenty of attention. Doesn't make his crime less wrong, but it's just the truth. In a strange way, it's probably good for the kid that Adrian is a celebrity. Otherwise, he might have to put up with dozens more beatings, like the rest of the kids of nobodies. Kind of like Adrian did when he was a kid.

Hopefully the NFL makes the punishment equal the crime.

Well, I'm not sure the NFL sees the required level of punishment the same as you do.

[The Breeze]

Others have already said this, but it bears repeating ... Adrian's notoriety undoubtedly brought him more scrutiny than the average person would ever face. The sad truth is that thousands of other a$$holes around the USA are beating their kids every day, and nothing will ever happen because nobody cares ... because they're nobody. Adrian is somebody, so he gets plenty of attention. Doesn't make his crime less wrong, but it's just the truth. In a strange way, it's probably good for the kid that Adrian is a celebrity. Otherwise, he might have to put up with dozens more beatings, like the rest of the kids of nobodies. Kind of like Adrian did when he was a kid.

Thank you for writing that the way you did. That's thoughtful perspective.

[DK Sweets]

You made it personal. And why would I waste my time trying to 'bait' you?

So many have completely flip flopped on this subject since AD got caught beating his 4 year old son. Now theres a chance that he may play again. Im trying to point out that my opinion stands. I think he knew exactly what he was doing, and I don't want young Viking fans thinking of him as a role model. And since we have different opinions on this matter, lets consider it closed.

How did I make it personal? I made a statement of my feelings, the same as everyone else, and you took it personally. Those are not the same thing.

For the record, I have always said he should be punished and he should apologize. If he is fined, I would consider both accounted for.

You don't seem to like to admit this, but his actions an extreme version of something that is very accepted in the south. He went too far, but it seems to me like you think he invented an obscure and tortuous experience, when in fact he actually went too far with a normal disciplinary tactic. He was not right, but his heart does not seem monstrous to me. In fact, I have known many people who have endured very similar discipline and hold no grudge against their parents for it. This case has helped bring attention to the fact that things need to change, but I do not feel like he should be sacrificed for something that many people still find normal. This is not as black and white as we would like to make it be.

It seems like this is very personal to you. Would you care to share why this affects you so much?

[fiestavike]

If you require Adrian Peterson to sincerely say whoopin' is wrong in order to forgive him you are probably not going to forgive him.
He apologized for going to far and expressed regret for injuring his son even in the text messages that he sent after the punishment he administered. A cultural difference exists that is not going to be bridged. If you don't like him because of that its fine and understandable.

I'm not crazy about him creating a lot of children out of wedlock. I'm never going to be comfortable with that. It is an unbridgeable gap between me and Peterson. Football is football and real life is real life. I can still enjoy watching him play football even if I don't approve of his lifestyle. I'm not and have never been a fan of adrian peterson the man, but i am a fan of adrian peterson the football player.

[IrishViking]

It's become a veritable bait shop here.


When this first broke I knew and even stated on the board that it would take quite a bit from AP for me to let this go. He isn't there yet but he IS on his way. Some have complained that AP has not appeared properly and dutifully "upset" "humble" "guilty" etc, etc. First; The public tends to forget that they don't see every detail when we are drawn into a personal issue in the way that only a celebrity court case can. For all we know he could have been exceeding humble and implored the Mother for forgiveness, doing everything that was necessary. I happen to know a few mothers and I find it exceedingly hard to believe that if the little boy didn't want to see AP that the mother would allow it. There is a still a positive relationship there, let it be salvaged. Secondly; and this one is a bit harsher. Mind your own business. I mean that in the nicest way possible but really, do. AP, the Mother, and the courts have absolutely zilch duty to the public at large to makes sure they (the public) feel justice has been served. In fact the Courts exist for the purpose of preventing nothing but "mob justice". I have also heard, generally, that (I am paraphrasing here, if you said this I am not calling you out personally) it "Takes a village" or "For anyone with kids this is an issue". I accept that. Now you must accept that the courts have stepped in, your job has ended.

My last issue is the class crap that has risen out if this. AP got a standard deal. Pleas happen in the VAST majority of cases. If he had served anytime it would have been miscarriage of justice. He has done nothing but express remorse, it is his first offense, and apart from some speeding tickets (of which I don't approve ((school zone)) he is a model citizen (legally speaking). He didn't get off easy cause he is rich. He got a standard punishment.


I am not trying to call anyone out. It just seems to me that A LOT of personal laundry is getting aired through this AP issue right now and its clouding the issue.

[Pondering Her Percy]

UPDATES FROM SUNDAY, NOV. 9:

After pleading "no contest" to child abuse earlier this week, ESPN's Chris Mortensen and Adam Schefter report the NFLPA has already requested Adrian Peterson be reinstated by the NFL:

The NFL Players Association sent a letter to the NFL on Friday, calling for the immediate reinstatement of Adrian Peterson per the agreement the sides made for the Minnesota Vikings running back to go on the commissioner's exempt list in September, according to sources.

The agreement to place Peterson on the commissioner's exempt list explicitly states that Peterson would be removed from the list upon resolution of his legal matter, sources said. Peterson plead guilty to a misdemeanor last week.

If the NFL declines to comply with the agreement, the NFLPA can then file an expedited non-injury grievance to have Peterson reinstated immediately.

Mortensen and Schefter also relay if the Vikings organization even wants Peterson back with the team: "If Peterson is reinstated, sources say the majority of the Vikings football operations executives, as well as the coaching staff and players, want the running back on the team."

On Thursday, Mike Garafolo of Fox Sports reported the NFL rejected Peterson's bid to be immediately reinstated following the plea deal.

[Pondering Her Percy]

Oh boy I'm not liking this....

Per Rappoport

Sources: #Vikings executives are divided on whether they want Adrian Peterson to return immediately if reinstated. Internal battle brewing

[frosted]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... minnesota/

Florio is disputing the initial report


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[fiestavike]

UPDATES FROM SUNDAY, NOV. 9:

Thanks.

PFT has a piece with this detail.

The letter from NFLPA general counsel Tom DePaso to NFL general counsel Jeff Pash states as follows: “The player agrees that, effective as of yesterday (September 17, 2014), he is placed on the Commissioner-Exempt list with full pay until the criminal charges currently pending against him are adjudicated.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... ?cid=Yahoo

NFL network is scrolling that rappaport reports likely less than 6 games and Peterson could return in Dec.

[indianation65]

My annoyance with the Peterson life decisions has faded, if he plays in a Vikings uniform again, then fine, if not, let the Vike's passing game flourish. Either way, I'm good, besides, I finally saw, after all these years since junior high, I saw "Judas Priest" the other night in Allen/Dallas...all is right with the world! Wahi'

...wisdom

[Laserman]

My annoyance with the Peterson life decisions has faded, if he plays in a Vikings uniform again, then fine, if not, let the Vike's passing game flourish. Either way, I'm good, besides, I finally saw, after all these years since junior high, I saw "Judas Priest" the other night in Allen/Dallas...all is right with the world! Wahi'

...wisdom

I Saw Judas Priest in their Prime on the screaming for vengeance tour.