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All I'll say is the defense is going to continue to look bad as long as the Vikings offense can't sustain drives. Entering the 2nd half I think the Vikes had converted all of 3 3rd downs and the Bears had doubled them on TOP. That's just not going to cut it in the NFL.CalVike wrote:0. The whole bloody defense
1. Turnovers
2. WR drops
3. Poor QB play in the red zone
4. Improper use of the NFL's best running back
5. Penalties.
6. Refs.
Go Vikes!
A monday night game on the west coast.admvp wrote:There was no reason for either the defense or the offense to look this bad coming out of a bye week. Period. I don't care if we are at home or on the road. I don't care if the game is being played in North Korea. NFL teams aren't supposed to look like that coming out of bye weeks. What were we doing the whole damn time? Clearly not preparing. Jeez.
Edit: And the Bears were coming off a Monday Night game. So there's also that.
No, it wasn't like SF although I think the line play was okay. Griffen almost had a sack early but Cutler was able to throw it away. There was another play where he was basically sacked but threw an underhand ball to Forte at the last second for no gain. The main problem on defense was the tackling by the secondary (Jefferson was absolutely atrocious), the LB's inability to cover the middle, and Marshall going into beast-mode and catching everything in sight. (Okay it was a clear PI on him in the endzone but other than that the guy played lights out)VikingPaul73 wrote:I missed the game today, but noticed that the vikings only recorded 1 sack. Did they pressure Cutler at all? I know the Vikings D-Line doesn't hold a candle to the 49ers DLine, but the 9ers absoutely dismantled the Bears O-Line on monday. It was like men vs. children. I thought the Vikings could have gotten to Cutler a few times.
Their pass rush wasn't very effective today, although Mike Tice and the Bears o-line deserve some credit for that. Tice made changes on that line this week and I'm guessing he read his guys the riot act and pushed them hard to prepare for this game. It showed. The Vikings pass rush was MIA for much of the afternoon.VikingPaul73 wrote: A monday night game on the west coast.
I missed the game today, but noticed that the vikings only recorded 1 sack. Did they pressure Cutler at all? I know the Vikings D-Line doesn't hold a candle to the 49ers DLine, but the 9ers absoutely dismantled the Bears O-Line on monday. It was like men vs. children. I thought the Vikings could have gotten to Cutler a few times.
Jim, I think you were there. I saw only first half then nfl radio / red zone because Fox LA shifted to Atl-TB at 25-3 at start of 2nd half. Any positives that we are giving short shrift? It felt closer than last year's blowout. DaveMothman wrote: Their pass rush wasn't very effective today, although Mike Tice and the Bears o-line deserve some credit for that. Tice made changes on that line this week and I'm guessing he read his guys the riot act and pushed them hard to prepare for this game. It showed. The Vikings pass rush was MIA for much of the afternoon.
LOL! That sums it up pretty well.CalVike wrote:0. The whole bloody defense
1. Turnovers
2. WR drops
3. Poor QB play in the red zone
4. Improper use of the NFL's best running back
5. Penalties.
6. Refs.
Go Vikes!
I didn't see many positives, Dave. The o-line opened some nice holes for Peterson and as usual, AD ran well. I thought Winfield played pretty well against Marshall too. You can't shut a guy like that down but Winfield was jobbed on that PI call in the endzone and overall, he did a nice job against an elite receiver. He had a pick as well.CalVike wrote:Jim, I think you were there. I saw only first half then nfl radio / red zone because Fox LA shifted to Atl-TB at 25-3 at start of 2nd half. Any positives that we are giving short shrift? It felt closer than last year's blowout. Dave
Mothman wrote: I didn't see many positives, Dave. The o-line opened some nice holes for Peterson and as usual, AD ran well. I thought Winfield played pretty well against Marshall too. You can't shut a guy like that down but Winfield was jobbed on that PI call in the endzone and overall, he did a nice job against an elite receiver. He had a pick as well.
The biggest positives for me were the third and short calls to Rudolph, which worked like a charm for good yardage. It's plays like those that give me hope for Musgrave, although I was pretty frustrated with his playcalling at times today.
Ponder made a few nice throws early that were dropped but overall he didn't play well.
Ugh you know its a bad day when Jim doesnt have many positives. How long is this rebulding project ging to be? I sure hope its a year or 2 and not a decade. Look what harbaugh (who i cant stand) did in San Fran. It starts from the top, and goes down. Things like receivers now aernt the answer.
The defense managed to get a turnover and didn't give up many points in the second half but I can't say much else positive about their performance. It was pretty ugly.