Who is most to blame for the "passing" offense?

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Who is most to blame for our poor passing offense.

Christian Ponder
21
66%
Bill Musgrave's playcalling
4
13%
The wide receivers
4
13%
the offensive line
1
3%
Ponder's new ESPN girlfriend
2
6%
 
Total votes: 32

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QB has to play MUCH better.
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All of the above (except Ponder's girlfriend). At this point, the whole passing offense is dysfunctional.
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No doubt it's on ponder. I sometimes hear people saying that musgrave is partly to blame because he only calls short passes, but he only does that because he knows that ponder can not throw deep. Every time he throws deep it's either intercepted, nearly intercepted, or it's a pass interference penalty.
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There is no 1 factor, our whole offense outside Harvin and Peterson is highschool level.
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It seems to me that all of us have lost our patience.
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Quoth Ponder per Pelissero:

http://m.1500espn.com/pages/sportswire.php?sID=5956
"I don't know if there's concern," Ponder said of the Vikings' passing game, which likely will fall even further after entering the game ranked 27th in the NFL.

"Obviously, we know that we have to get better. It's all fixable. We're going to see that on film, probably, is that it's all fixable. We just have to do it."
Delusional.
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I'd slap him if he said that to my face haha.
Whenever i step outside, somebody claims to see the light
It seems to me that all of us have lost our patience.
'cause everyone thinks they're right,
And nobody thinks that there just might
Be more than one road to our final destination--
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80 PurplePride 84 wrote:I think all of the 1st 4 are equally to blame.
Crazy. Any good QB, with our WR and TEs, having AD in the backfield would drool over the chance to play. Tom Brady would have 500 yards a game. Im so sick of the its the Oline, its the WRs, no one is ever open. No, they aernt wide open. But iver seen Rogers and Manning zing in into a lot tighter coverage. And at least they try.
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I didn't want to believe it, but Micky was right all along, "Women weaken legs," and apparently arms as well. At least Rock listened. SS is barely a caliber 7.5 by Dallas standards. It's time, I've fallen into the "webb."

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Not sure who is responsible. But I do think this. Ponder looks scared. Scared to make a mistake, therefore he is not even attempting to pass the ball. And when he does pass, he looks like he is hesitant about it so the ball is not on target. You are supposed to be and NFL QB. You are going to get hit, you are going to throw interceptions, you are going to miss people. But you can't second guess yourself, and I think that is what he is doing. It's in his head. Only he can fix it. And until he does, if he does, he is going to suck.
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Where is the "whole offense" option? The whole offense outside of AD isn't carrying their weight. From the OL, to Ponder, to the Receivers, to Musgrave.
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GBFavreFan wrote:It's Ponder's fault. Two games of less than 60 yards? Even in warm ups he looked like he was ready to lose. He is a morale killer and cannot handle pressure and throws with zero authority. His passing game has become so simple that they write articles about how teams brag about figuring him out. If he was a video game he has like three buttons, X throws a 0 yard screen to Percy, Y throws that stupid fade down the sidelines, and Shift Y Z double tap wiggle Z A Y Y throws a forward pass approximately 5 yards downfield. And then moving forward runs for 2 yards and then hits the dirt 10 feet before any defender comes close.

As for our receivers, Jerome Simpson had close to 1000 yards and a bunch of TD's and Percy Harvin is one of the finest talents in the NFL. I refuse to lay blame at our receiver's feet. Also ask yourself if our group is really inferior to other teams all across the league that somehow manage to throw for more than 100 yards week after week. Also ask yourself how virtually any other starting QB would do in our offense.

i dunno, maybe its time to start sending feelers to Seattle about the availability of Matt Flynn for next year ...
So you're saying we just need Matt Flynn to come in and lead us to a superbowl? Tell me you are not serious. I assure you that there are many more holes in this roster than you think. Holes in coaching also.

I voted for Ponder's GF :roll:
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dkoby wrote: So you're saying we just need Matt Flynn to come in and lead us to a superbowl? Tell me you are not serious. I assure you that there are many more holes in this roster than you think. Holes in coaching also.

I voted for Ponder's GF :roll:
Seeing the Flynn cant play D, No. The poll is about the passing game. Learn to read.
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This offense is way to one dimensional. We either hand off to AP or throw the bubble screen to Percy. Thats our entire offense.....period.

Ponder is not capable of reading the field beyond his primary receiver and even if does he misses the throw. Musgrave is an idiot, he has the offensive intelligence of a lab rat and the flexiblility of a beach ball. Simpson is nothing more than a decoy and our O line is starting to look just as bad as last year.

And for the record, dont forget Mr. Spielmans involvement in this fiasco. Just think how much better this offense would be if we only had our 25 million dollar t/e free agent.
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Mothman wrote:All of the above (except Ponder's girlfriend). At this point, the whole passing offense is dysfunctional.
Funny you should say that. I almost voted that way, just because I noticed the connection that the moment the relationship went public, Ponder's game went into the toilet. Maybe he got all "I'm so cool", and the lack of concentration has cost him.
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