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Purpnation wrote:
And what happens if we lose AP? Pray tell?

McKinnon will come in and break the rushing record that AD couldn't quite do two years ago.

Texas Vike wrote: McKinnon will come in and break the rushing record that AD couldn't quite do two years ago.

Or we'll just have the best offensive outing we had all year when AP was hurt against the Eagles. Losing a RB, even one as great as AD just isn't that big of a deal. It hurst of course but life goes on without AD, as we saw last year, it certainly doesn't without Rodgers.

mondry wrote:Or we'll just have the best offensive outing we had all year when AP was hurt against the Eagles. Losing a RB, even one as great as AD just isn't that big of a deal.

I have to disagree with that. It depends on the matchup. It's less of a big deal when you're going up against the league's worst pass defense, which is what the Eagles ended up being last year. Against some opponents, losing AD would have been more much more detrimental.

Eli wrote: There's nothing other than potential on which to base that assertion.

And after the Vikings offense is on par with the other three teams in the division (well, potentially), then what? The Vikings' defense is as bad as any of them. That will all change, of course, as it always does. But try to remember that those other teams are trying to improve in exactly the same way that the Vikings are.

The Lions won't ever get it right and Calvin isn't getting younger. The Bears still have a mistake-prone Cutler and have started from scratch on defense and are still behind Minnesota in that respect. Green Bay is gonna have to pay Cobb and/or Jordy next year (they've lost a lot of playmaking receivers over the years already) and that defense still isn't anything great. These things are cyclical. Minnesota got next. Book it!

I think if we can win our first couple of games, we'd roll. Ideally, you beat New England because that's a huge statement and your team can pretty much be confident that they have the ability to at least stay with any other team on the schedule. I don't remember the last time we beat New England either, so it'd be a pretty awesome feeling for the fans as well. I think that's arguably the most important thing.

Purpnation wrote:
And what happens if we lose AP? Pray tell?

We score 48 points again?

mondry wrote: Or we'll just have the best offensive outing we had all year when AP was hurt against the Eagles. Losing a RB, even one as great as AD just isn't that big of a deal. It hurst of course but life goes on without AD, as we saw last year, it certainly doesn't without Rodgers.

Having a good RB matters a lot when you're winning. You can stay ahead more easily while controlling the ball with a good running game and an effective passing game sprinkled in.

CodeRedCards wrote:As the off season moves on and the qb's compete Bridgewater will impress I'm telling you guy's this kid is the real deal I think we make playoff's this year. I even think we win a game or 2 in the playoff's

I think we do that as long as Ponder doesn't start this year. Any combination of Bridgewater-cassel can get us to the playoffs and maybe even win one.

mondry wrote: Or we'll just have the best offensive outing we had all year when AP was hurt against the Eagles. Losing a RB, even one as great as AD just isn't that big of a deal. It hurst of course but life goes on without AD, as we saw last year, it certainly doesn't without Rodgers.

That's a pretty small sample (1 game) to arrive at the conclusion that losing AD "isn't that big of a deal". If we're going to make a deep run, I think we'll need him.

Vegas has us as the worst team in the NFC when it comes to NFCCG chances. So yeah, I'll go with no.

Demi wrote:Vegas has us as the worst team in the NFC when it comes to NFCCG chances. So yeah, I'll go with no.

Wow... I can't believe we r last... Lower than Tampa or Detroit.

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PurpleMustReign wrote: Wow... I can't believe we r last... Lower than Tampa or Detroit.

New coaching staff, unresolved QB situation, playing in a temporary setting at for home games, coming off a season in which they had major problems on defense... as fans we can be optimistic but that's not a combination of factors that typically leads to success so it's not hard to see why the oddsmakers would view the Vikes that way. Hopefully, they will defy expectations.

fiestavike wrote:Good time to lay some money on the Vikes. Anyone know what the actual odds are for them making the NFCC game?

A quick Google search yielded this:

http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/odds/futures/

60/1 odds for the Vikes winning the NFC. their odds to win the Super Bowl are 100/1. I didn't see odds for just making the NFCC game, although i assume that's a bet you can make.

I also found this:

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/laces-out/ ... son-051914

The Vegas Hilton projects the Vikes to win 6 games.

The game of football is so unpredictable I don't see how many people are so confident in their predictions. We've seen on numerous occasions throughout the years that even teams who finish in the bottom of the league, will sometimes make the playoffs the following year. I know our odds don't look good. But I really do believe the Vikings chose a good coach in Zimmer and a good QB in Bridgewater. The Vikings played pretty good in the snow last year against the Ravens so I don't see why this stadium will be a factor. Some seasons we could barely win in the metrodome, so I don't see the big deal with that. My only concern is defense still. I know Zimmer has and still will be making some changes on D but I guess we will have to see by the end of the season on how that worked out.

I still don't believe in this Zimmer magic. His defenses are good but their not invincible. I remember back in 2009, when we had great QB play, we absolutely had our way with his Bengals defense. Over the years his defense got better but it didn't happen in one season. We're still going to have to acquire some more players on defense next year to really get the defense where everybody expects them to be.

fiestavike wrote: hmm, ya, the odds of winning the NFCC game and the odds of getting there are radically different for the Vikings in my opinion! I've never been alive to see them actually win an NFCC! But if it was 60-1 to get there, I would lay $10.

I am placing 3 bets on the Vikings this year. I will bet 100 to win the NFC North, a 100 too win the NFC Championship and 100 to win the SuperBowl. As far fetched as this is, even if they can win the North, I cover my investment and if they go to the Super Bowl and win it my 300 dollars turns into several thousands. I can easily afford the 300, which I normally would spend gambling in Vegas for a weekend.
I am not saying, by any means that I expect this outcome but it sure makes the upcoming season even more anticipated for me any way.