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From what I've been hearing about this kid, I heard he sucks pretty bad plus he has some character issues. Then again it's nothing we should worry about because he my not even last on the roster anyway.

Are good hands an inherited trait? If so, he's worth a look, but this is probably nothing more than a favor to CC.

I can't wait for him to make the roster and everyone start treating him like Greg Childs. This kid sounds like a punk.

Sounds like a piece of crap teammate from what I am hearing and someone who hates work I am
Guessing camp fodder for sure unless he wakes up and changes his attitude ..

Not surprised from I have heard his dad was like that early on drugs and attitude got him cut from
the Eagles and Buddy Ryan

S197 wrote:To me that's just semantics. You can call it a charitable act but in the end what you are describing is nepotism, which is giving favor to one based on kinship. I don't think anyone here honestly believes he would have received a chance if it were not for Cris Carter being his father.

I certainly don't and I agree, what I wrote was just semantics but that was exactly the point. I'm not denying that it's nepotism, I'm just pointing out that nepotism, despite having a negative connotation, isn't always bad. You're saying you disagree with it and I do too when it invcolves hiring some unqualified relative over a qualified candidate. However, this situation is basically an employer giving a friend's son an interview as a favor, not hiring a friend's son as a favor. I don't have a problem with that and, in fact, I think people should grant favors like that, within reason (obviously, it wouldn't even be worth bringing CC's son to mini-camp for to compete if they didn't believe he had some shot, even a long shot, to make the training camp roster). To a reasonable extent, people should help each other out and from the Vikings point of view, why not explore the option? After all, the kid's father played Hall of Fame-level football for them. Maybe he really did just hate school and actually has something to offer. If not, no harm done.

Let's give the kid a shot!!!What do we have to lose?

Could surprise the hell out of us.

Mothman wrote: On the other hand, friendship, loyalty and charity are valuable qualities so is giving CC's son a chance to earn a training camp roster spot during mini-camps nepotism or just a charitable act, a favor for someone who did a lot for the Vikings organization? I don't know but Duron Carter must have talent or he never would have ended up associated with football programs at schools like Ohio State or Alabama in the first place. I doubt anything comes of this but who knows? There may be something in it for the Vikings.

This...is a cause for concern.

What didn't impress, apparently, was his work ethic.

"The team that drafts Duron Carter will get the most lazy, whiny & non-work ethic player the nfl has ever seen," Cayden Cochran, Coffeyville's starting quarterback for Carter's season there, wrote on his Twitter account in February. "I played w/him. Horrible person & will be a complete cancer to any team on the board."

dead_poet wrote: This...is a cause for concern.

There are ways to express concern, and there is what Cayden Cocheran did here. Idk, it just seems like going to Twitter with something like this makes it lose all of its relevance.

PurpleMustReign wrote:There are ways to express concern, and there is what Cayden Cocheran did here. Idk, it just seems like going to Twitter with something like this makes it lose all of its relevance.

He might not like the guy either. Who knows. But it's one way of sharing your feelings and having it get picked up by the media without the formal interview/story process. Given Carter's checkered past and notable character issues I'm hard pressed to give him the benefit of the doubt.

Chris Carter-

He didn't commit a crime, he has no tattoos, he has no kids, and he's a pleasant kid. His thing is he hates school, though. And I'm his dad. He's really bright; he's got an IQ over 130. He just hates school. We gave him the pretest on the Wonderlic. He got a 28.

130 IQ my ####. He couldn't meet the minimum academic requirements at Ohio State and Alabama. How can he be expected to learn basic plays, new concepts, strategy, etc?

This is just like Caroline Kennedy getting named ambassador to Japan- a favor from one elitist to another.

dead_poet wrote: This...is a cause for concern.

It is cause for concern but who knows what sort of axe Cayden Cochran might have to grind regarding Duron Carter? That tweet might say as much or more about Cochran's character as it does about Carter's. After all, the 2 played together in 2010. If Cochran still feels the need to throw something like that out there 3 years later, maybe he has maturity issues. Even if Carter was every bit the lazy, whiny player Cochran claims, that doesn't means he's the same person a few years down the road. Sometimes people do a lot of growing up in their late teens and early 20s.

Orion wrote:Chris Carter-

130 IQ my ####. He couldn't meet the minimum academic requirements at Ohio State and Alabama. How can he be expected to learn basic plays, new concepts, strategy, etc?

This is just like Caroline Kennedy getting named ambassador to Japan- a favor from one elitist to another.

I'd be surprised if his IQ was over 102. Other than his name, I have no idea why this is a story.

headless_norseman wrote:
I'd be surprised if his IQ was over 102. Other than his name, I have no idea why this is a story.

Bingo, Cris Carter's son, that why it is a story

Orion wrote:Chris Carter-

130 IQ my ####. He couldn't meet the minimum academic requirements at Ohio State and Alabama. How can he be expected to learn basic plays, new concepts, strategy, etc?

This is just like Caroline Kennedy getting named ambassador to Japan- a favor from one elitist to another.

I know many smart people who just..don't like school. Hell one of my friends was constant "A" Honors and just one year decided school just wasn't worth it and he dropped out and a year or two later got his GED. For me too, I'm rather intelligent; but any class that I feel is pointless I have less then what you want in GPA. It's just the way I am..idk. So ya, it's defiantly possible his son is that smart.

Arma wrote: I know many smart people who just..don't like school. Hell one of my friends was constant "A" Honors and just one year decided school just wasn't worth it and he dropped out and a year or two later got his GED. For me too, I'm rather intelligent; but any class that I feel is pointless I have less then what you want in GPA. It's just the way I am..idk. So ya, it's defiantly possible his son is that smart.

One of my friends in high school was a 15 year old who skipped two grades and got a 800/790 on her SATs -- and had trouble making Bs in some classes. I guarantee you that her IQ was over 130 -- it wasn't even close to 130 --but she didn't enjoy sitting in classrooms listening to teachers, and when she got to college, that didn't change. School isn't for everyone. Some people are hyperactive and not on meds, and the last thing they want to do with their time is be in class.

We probably ought to reserve judgment on a kid like CCs until he gets in camp and shows what he can do when he is finally given an opportunity to live his dream as an NFL player. Am I betting on him? No. But do I think it's beyond the realm of possibility that he will succeed? No again.