Foreman44 wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 4:47 am
One thing for sure. I will not root against Mond that fail... He is the man we drafted. He is our hopeful qb of the future,,,, I will only cheer and hope for great success.... I have mentioned many times as well as others, that . so many great qb hopefuls coming out of college. with way higher expectations than Mond ... I will hope Mond pans out more like a wilson or prescott, Warner. type. lower expectations. better success. No one knows right now how Mond, Trask, or any other qb will do for sure in the NFL.... I personally am not against us doing the same in next years draft...Although I am not sure how strong that class is at qb.
The pros that get a ton of money have no idea how these guys will turn out. I don't think there is a Viking fan that wants to see any player fail. Everyone of us have an opinion about the players we selected. That's what makes the draft interesting. You can pick players from anywhere we all know that. But there are some trends. The kid pick number 1 overall has a better chance of becoming a top QB than some kid picked off the street. Will it happen that way? Who knows. I like that Stanley kid we picked last year others didn't. More than likely he will get cut this year unless he made dramatic improvements. Trask put up some nice numbers and played well against Bama. Was that all smoke and mirrors. The experts feel it was or he would have been drafted higher. I hope Mond becomes a good QB because we will need one in a short time. If he isn't then it's back to the same old story. Cousins gets much negativity thrown his way. I think the guy plays good especially when he plays behind an OL that can't pass block. That makes an almost impossible job even that much harder. We have one maybe average player on the OL. The rest should be thrown on the scrape heap. Give Dak or any QB that and see how they do.
I didn’t think any Viking fan would cheer any Viking player to fail, only success. But I wii hope and wish him the best.
I agree with you the chances of Lawrence or Lance out of NDSU are higher than a later pick like Trask or Mond. But IMO when it comes to QBs, that’s no guarantee.
I don’t know or recall who was drafted ahead of Prescott or Wilson.but I wonder how they fair against those drafted ahead of them
CharVike wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 8:19 am
The pros that get a ton of money have no idea how these guys will turn out. I don't think there is a Viking fan that wants to see any player fail. Everyone of us have an opinion about the players we selected. That's what makes the draft interesting. You can pick players from anywhere we all know that. But there are some trends. The kid pick number 1 overall has a better chance of becoming a top QB than some kid picked off the street. Will it happen that way? Who knows. I like that Stanley kid we picked last year others didn't. More than likely he will get cut this year unless he made dramatic improvements. Trask put up some nice numbers and played well against Bama. Was that all smoke and mirrors. The experts feel it was or he would have been drafted higher. I hope Mond becomes a good QB because we will need one in a short time. If he isn't then it's back to the same old story. Cousins gets much negativity thrown his way. I think the guy plays good especially when he plays behind an OL that can't pass block. That makes an almost impossible job even that much harder. We have one maybe average player on the OL. The rest should be thrown on the scrape heap. Give Dak or any QB that and see how they do.
I didn’t think any Viking fan would cheer any Viking player to fail, only success. But I wii hope and wish him the best.
I agree with you the chances of Lawrence or Lance out of NDSU are higher than a later pick like Trask or Mond. But IMO when it comes to QBs, that’s no guarantee.
I don’t know or recall who was drafted ahead of Prescott or Wilson.but I wonder how they fair against those drafted ahead of them
I didn’t think any Viking fan would cheer any Viking player to fail, only success. But I wii hope and wish him the best.
I agree with you the chances of Lawrence or Lance out of NDSU are higher than a later pick like Trask or Mond. But IMO when it comes to QBs, that’s no guarantee.
I don’t know or recall who was drafted ahead of Prescott or Wilson.but I wonder how they fair against those drafted ahead of them
You're correct with no guarantee. QBs are a mystery to all even the pros. Just wait and see how it flushes out.
Imagine the guy with the gift of seeing what makes the Bradys and John Randles, Kurt Warner’s. Digs, Theilens great players, know when to stay away from the Leafs, Shulers, Carr’s,etc,,
Why do guys kike John Randle go I know some is smaller school programs. How many teams would have drafted Randle number 1, or top five anyways had they any idea.
CharVike wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 10:34 pm
You're correct with no guarantee. QBs are a mystery to all even the pros. Just wait and see how it flushes out.
Imagine the guy with the gift of seeing what makes the Bradys and John Randles, Kurt Warner’s. Digs, Theilens great players, know when to stay away from the Leafs, Shulers, Carr’s,etc,,
Why do guys kike John Randle go I know some is smaller school programs. How many teams would have drafted Randle number 1, or top five anyways had they any idea.
The superpower to foretell the future would be greater than the ability to fly or turn invisible.
The John Randles of the world exist every year. The reason we do not hear much of them is that they are the late blooming athletes out of HS and attend smaller colleges or not the BIG5 conference schools. Those kids physically develop more in college. The 'Bama of the world are signing full grown men out of HS. Those kids continue to get bigger and stronger in those programs, but they are much closer to a finished product than the Randle, Thielen, Trey Lance, Quinn Meinerz, Kurt Warner, Big Ben, list goes on for days.... Look at the Iowa OL that come in as 2 and 3 star players, a lot of TE, and then turn into 1st and 2nd rd picks !
In particular, I think that a lot of those late blooming studs tend to be the OL and DL.
The skill players are either born twitchy or they work tirelessly to become the prospect that they are.
He's great in space and that sideline-to-sideline type of guy that Zimmer likes. My worry is on those plays where the guards are pulling, I don't think he's getting around NFL guards like he was doing in those highlights against Syracuse. His tackling needs a bit of work too.
He's likely the highest boom or bust pick they made this year. I think middle of the 3rd was early for a guy like this but he's here and I hope he has a great career.
I mean to respond to this earlier but got sidetracked, but Bynum is an intriguing pick where the Vikings got him, especially as a safety.
What stands out about Bynum is how much he understands the game. He seems like he truly loves playing football and while he might not be the most physically gifted DB out there, he is a guy who is going to study every tendency of the opposing offense and find ways to exploit what he sees on the field. I think Zimmer already noted Bynum is showing some real understanding of the defense even in the limited snaps he's gotten so far.
In fact, Bynum was almost my favorite draft pick based on what I've read about him and the interview at the link confirms what I read. I could see Bynum being the DB who jumps in front of a throw late in a playoff game and takes it to the house because he has studied the opposing QB and knows what he's likely to try to do in that particular situation. He's also a solid on field leader which the Vikings needed badly last year. With guys like Peterson and Smith in the secondary now, they've got solid vet leadership, but it's an often overlooked factor on teams, especially in pressure situations late in games. If Bynum can work his way onto the field yet this season, that factor should be even stronger for the secondary.
I mean to respond to this earlier but got sidetracked, but Bynum is an intriguing pick where the Vikings got him, especially as a safety.
What stands out about Bynum is how much he understands the game. He seems like he truly loves playing football and while he might not be the most physically gifted DB out there, he is a guy who is going to study every tendency of the opposing offense and find ways to exploit what he sees on the field. I think Zimmer already noted Bynum is showing some real understanding of the defense even in the limited snaps he's gotten so far.
In fact, Bynum was almost my favorite draft pick based on what I've read about him and the interview at the link confirms what I read. I could see Bynum being the DB who jumps in front of a throw late in a playoff game and takes it to the house because he has studied the opposing QB and knows what he's likely to try to do in that particular situation. He's also a solid on field leader which the Vikings needed badly last year. With guys like Peterson and Smith in the secondary now, they've got solid vet leadership, but it's an often overlooked factor on teams, especially in pressure situations late in games. If Bynum can work his way onto the field yet this season, that factor should be even stronger for the secondary.
He's without question my favorite rookie personality coming in. An easy guy to cheer for. His love for football comes across loud and clear.
