2017 draft thread

[dead_poet]

Vikes may have a trade partner:

https://twitter.com/TMBScouting/status/ ... 3203871745

[fiestavike]

Vikes may have a trade partner:

https://twitter.com/TMBScouting/status/ ... 3203871745

Would have to think that's for Lamp or Robinson if true. I'd hate to see them give up either of their 3rd round picks. ugh.

[Texas Vike]

Would have to think that's for Lamp or Robinson if true. I'd hate to see them give up either of their 3rd round picks. ugh.

They'd likely have to give up both of them, from what I understand. But if Lamp is THAT good? I can see the temptation.

[dead_poet]

They'd likely have to give up both of them, from what I understand. But if Lamp is THAT good? I can see the temptation.

It may be conditional based on who's available. And it may only be a few spots (not necessarily to 33-34). Heck, it could even be a trade DOWN.

It would shock me, frankly, if Rick gives up multiple picks for a guard. I could see McDowell, though.

[mansquatch]

I understand what you are saying about the Browns but our rosters are at much different levels (of competitiveness) so that would be an apples to oranges for me. Especially considering the start of the 2016 season. I think Jim made a good point about the front office and if they felt they could make a super bowl run. They obviously felt that a run was possible hence the trade. The big question is......was their assessment accurate? Given the state of the OL I dunno. Consider that we were 5-0 at one point maybe validates that reasoning.

The OL issues were not nearly as bad when they made the SB trade. At that time Kalil and Smith were the starting tackles, not Clemmings/Sirles. One could argue that they should have expected injuries, but I doubt a reasonable case exists that they should have expected to start 14 different players ove the course of the season.

@ Fiesta: I think the reason they traded for him when they did came down to the view the FO held with regards to being able to contend. They basically stated that they felt that way when they did the deal. Whether they were correct in that assessment is certainly debatable, but IMO it renders the question about Bradford being available later when assessing the trade somewhat irrelevant since at the time they did the deal for a different reason. Apples to Oranges IMO.

This is really spilt milk. SB is our QB. Like it or not. The question is what will they do now?

Oh and really, the Browns are playing the long game? They've been playing the long gave for over 20 years. The Vikings have not been paragons of competitiveness but comparing us negatively against the Browns is just silly.

[Mothman]

The frontal lobes don't communicate efficiently with the rest of the brain until mid twenties.

When I think back to some of the decisions I made in late teens / early twenties, the science corresponds!

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Yes, I can definitely see a correlation when I look back at decisions I made at that age too.

[Texas Vike]

It may be conditional based on who's available. And it may only be a few spots (not necessarily to 33-34). Heck, it could even be a trade DOWN.

It would shock me, frankly, if Rick gives up multiple picks for a guard. I could see McDowell, though.

Sure, it's just twitter-rumor. But if there is anything to it, I would suspect it's to move up.

RE: moving up for a guard... I don't know, it would be very Rick of him to overreact to his new-found "knowledge" that investing higher picks in the OL gives better results.

[HardcoreVikesFan]

Vikes may have a trade partner:

https://twitter.com/TMBScouting/status/ ... 3203871745

Good to see you back around the board dead_poet!



As far as this rumor. I am very conflicted. I would love Forest Lamp, but the cost of moving up to get him may not be worth it. I would rather stand pat and take someone like Dan Feeney or trade back for a few more sections.

[Norv Zimmer]

Wow, what a crazy first round last night! My thoughts:

1. The bears.... WTF were they thinking trading all of that away for Trubisky
2. The chiefs.... Trading all that to get Mahomes? WTF!
3. The Browns are playing the draft like a fiddle, it is hard to rip them.
4. The Lions take a LB who by all looks is not worth a 1st round pick.

My thoughts for round 2

Packers take Lamp or Mixon.

I hope Feeney is there when we pick. Guy played something like 3000 snaps at right guard for Indiana, blocked for Tevin Coleman and Jordan Howard. Oh, and I think he only gave up 2 sacks his whole college career.
If Bowser is there when we pick at 48 I wouldnt be opposed to taking him, guy is a crazy athlete to replace Greenway. Him Barr and Kendricks would be super good.

Round 3 I think we need a Running back. If Mixon keeps falling I wouldn't mind him, next I would take Perine, then Hunt. Stay away from Cook PLEASE!
Round 3 I think we also need a Safety.

[Husker Vike]

Just watched some Forrest Lamp highlights, we would be very fortunate if we could land him. He is as solid technique wise as any one that I have watched, even though he has shorter arms 32.25" than most tackle prospects, he more than held his own against the studs from Alabama and LSU. I would imagine most teams would move him inside to guard, I think he may be versatile enough to play tackle, he has great feet , a good kick step, powerful build and seems to play a little nasty.

[dead_poet]

Cleveland released Barnidge. If I'm Rick, I look hard at him on a short-term deal.

[fiestavike]

@ Fiesta: I think the reason they traded for him when they did came down to the view the FO held with regards to being able to contend. They basically stated that they felt that way when they did the deal. Whether they were correct in that assessment is certainly debatable.

I don't think it remains debatable since we have hindsight on how it worked out. Whether it was an error in judgement is debatable, but that the team would be better off if they hadn't made the trade doesn't seem debatable. All the evidence is on one side.

This is really spilt milk. SB is our QB. Like it or not. The question is what will they do now?

Agreed.

Oh and really, the Browns are playing the long game? They've been playing the long gave for over 20 years. The Vikings have not been paragons of competitiveness but comparing us negatively against the Browns is just silly.

Its not silly at all. What is silly is piling in a bunch of history and evidene that has nothing to do with what the Browns are doing now into the equation. In just over a year the Browns have developed a coherent organizational vision, brought in a ton of good young talent, and amassed a ton of draft capital. They aren't trying to take short cuts, pursuing immediate victory, or immediate production, but longterm production (excellence)

I think they have a great trajectory with Brown and Hue Jackson.

[maplegrovevikings]

Cleveland released Barnidge. If I'm Rick, I look hard at him on a short-term deal.

I would take a look as well. With a qb like Bradford, Barnidge production would be good. Two TE set more for the defense to cover would open up the running game.

[Pseudo Everything]

Who do you most NOT want to see GB select with the first pick in the 2nd round?

Alvin Kamara. He is a much better fit for their offense than Dalvin Cook. Plus ... I want the Vikings taking him at #48 if he should still be on the board (unlikely).

Ian Rapport is reporting that GB is getting calls for DeShone Kizer. Rapport has at least a tiny sliver of credibility, or stated another way 98% more than most of what's out there on draft rumors right about now.

[Texas Vike]

Alvin Kamara. He is a much better fit for their offense than Dalvin Cook. Plus ... I want the Vikings taking him at #48 if he should still be on the board (unlikely).

Ian Rapport is reporting that GB is getting calls for DeShone Kizer. Rapport has at least a tiny sliver of credibility, or stated another way 98% more than most of what's out there on draft rumors right about now.

There's something about Kamara that I don't like. Is it that he reminds me of Patterson? Is it his limited production? Is it that I doubt he can be an every down back in the NFL?

Combo? I don't know.