Bridgewater Down

[Boon]

It sounds like Sugarman and Co. did a fantastic job. Thank God it sounds like the life threatening and amputation possibilities have been averted. Can you tell us more about the nerve aspect, I've read conflicting reports, and there seems to be some indication that we really can't know about the nerve damage at this point. Do you think its still a real possibility that Teddy might never recover or even walk normally again? I read somewhere that this is not an uncommon outcome with this injury.

Conflicting reports from who? Sugarman said it himself he expects a full recovery and there wasn't any nerve damage. He might be the team physician but he's still a well respected doctor who has a rather extensive history of dealing with these injuries. I think his word on this is pretty solid

[Raptorman]

On another note. Vikings Super Bowl odds went from 18-1 August 27 to 30-1 today.

[Pondering Her Percy]

Different injuries, Childs tore both patellar tendons.

Childs tore both patellar tendons at the same time. That's even more of a freaky injury than Teddys

[jackal]

I have zero interest in this season.
The Vikings and NFL are trying to
compare us to the Rams with Warner.

Complete nonsense..Warner had a arm
and was undiscovered, not a career backup
who every team had given up on.

[allday1991]

I have zero interest in this season.
The Vikings and NFL are trying to
compare us to the Rams with Warner.

Complete nonsense..Warner had a arm
and was undiscovered, not a career backup
who every team had given up on.

I hear you man, I'm in the same boat. I keep seeing articles saying Vikings aren't as doomed as they think they are and that Bridgewater didn't really have a good year last year and we still almost won a playoff game. Shawn Hill isn't the answer and is no Kurt Warner if he is our starter for the season I'm just not excited or hopeful at all.

[Mothman]

I hear you man, I'm in the same boat. I keep seeing articles saying Vikings aren't as doomed as they think they are and that Bridgewater didn't really have a good year last year and we still almost won a playoff game. Shawn Hill isn't the answer and is no Kurt Warner if he is our starter for the season I'm just not excited or hopeful at all.

I guess this is a case where some of my skepticism about Bridgewater is paying off because I don't feel like his loss ends their season. I didn't have Super Bowl expectations (slim hopes, maybe, but not expectations) and I figured this would be another year where the team leaned heavily on the running game and the defense. I still think that's what they'll do and I'm still hoping for improvement from the passing game.

This season is far from lost and by the time it's over, I suspect we will have seen much worse from the Vikings in seasons past. I'm still looking forward to seeing what happens.

[Gordon Shumway]

I guess this is a case where some of my skepticism about Bridgewater is paying off because I don't feel like his loss ends their season. I didn't have Super Bowl expectations (slim hopes, maybe, but not expectations) and I figured this would be another year where the team leaned heavily on the running game and the defense. I still think that's what they'll do and I'm still hoping for improvement from the passing game.

This season is far from lost and by the time it's over, I suspect we will have seen much worse from the Vikings in seasons past. I'm still looking forward to seeing what happens.

It's disheartening to see so many fans seemingly give up on the team so easily. Though I have more confidence in Teddy's abilities than your skepticism allows you, I still believe losing him is far from the end for this team. Passing offense was ranked towards the bottom last season with Teddy under center and the team won 11 games and the division. I believe this defense is among the top units in the league and Peterson is still the best RB until proven otherwise. There may be games this season that they lose that perhaps they could have won with Teddy but I still have high hopes for the 2016 Vikings.

[DK Sweets]

I should point out it could involve tibiofemoral joint too. I failed to mention that.

If it truly is a proximal tib-fib dislocation, could it be? Yes, if there was damage to the neuro-vascular supply about the fibular head. It is a rare injury.

I don't want to alarm anyone, because we don't know if that was truly what it was. It could be tibiofemoral or involve the patella.

I hope we find out soon. Like Zimmer said, it is really wrong of me to be poking into this. I am just going to have to leave Teddy be and keep him in my thoughts.

It is just a sad situation that I hate to see happen to anyone.

A couple of things:

1a) At the time that I am reading this, I am on page 5/11 on the tapatalk iPhone 6+ app. I'm way behind. Sorry for necro bumping a conversation before I even finish the (#### this thread) very ominous thread.*

1b) I don't know if I have ever EXPLICITLY said this, but I think you are the single most valuable member of this board because you are the most expert in your field. A lot of us know a lot about a lot of things, but none of us know more about a single subject than you know about sports medicine (in my humble opinion). That probably doesn't makes sense, but dammit, I tried.

*For those who somewhat knew me when I was active, I apologize for my inactiveness lately. I've been completely swamped with life lately.

Do not tell me that apologizing for being inactive on a message board is silly. Those of you who truly care about me are the ones who I am apologizing to, because you were the first Vikings family that a Missouri boy ever had. Purple runs deep. SKOL.

[DK Sweets]

While not outrageous, there's a time and a place for everything and this is one of those "can't win" instances for you being that you are an opposing fan. There's a lot of posting with emotion right now, I think once the initial shock wears off people will be more inclined to discuss. Right now though, you're probably better off just taking a step back and letting people vent for a while.

I'm still a few pages back, but I feel like this post really hit the nail on the head. Jordy is a great member of this board, but as he continues to grow with this board, it would be wise for him to occasionally obstain from certain threads.

He could literally be 100% right, but if he wants to be the good neighbor that he seems to usually be, he needs to avoid discussions of ACL tears and Randy Moss bottoms.

[Mothman]

A couple of things:

1a) At the time that I am reading this, I am on page 5/11 on the tapatalk iPhone 6+ app. I'm way behind. Sorry for necro bumping a conversation before I even finish the (#### this thread) very ominous thread.*

1b) I don't know if I have ever EXPLICITLY said this, but I think you are the single most valuable member of this board because you are the most expert in your field. A lot of us know a lot about a lot of things, but none of us know more about a single subject than you know about sports medicine (in my humble opinion). That probably doesn't makes sense, but dammit, I tried.

*For those who somewhat knew me when I was active, I apologize for my inactiveness lately. I've been completely swamped with life lately.

Do not tell me that apologizing for being inactive on a message board is silly. Those of you who truly care about me are the ones who I am apologizing to, because you were the first Vikings family that a Missouri boy ever had. Purple runs deep. SKOL.

I totally understand being "swamped with life", DK. I've been dealing with a similar dynamic this summer.

Know that your contributions are missed when you're away and appreciated when you have time to check in!

[Mothman]

I'm still a few pages back, but I feel like this post really hit the nail on the head. Jordy is a great member of this board, but as he continues to grow with this board, it would be wise for him to occasionally obstain from certain threads.

He could literally be 100% right, but if he wants to be the good neighbor that he seems to usually be, he needs to avoid discussions of ACL tears and Randy Moss bottoms.

I have one thing to add to this: I agree 100% with Landon (S197) that Wednesday, when the news broke, emotions were running high here and the timing was wrong for Jordy to post some of the comments he posted. They just weren't going to be received well by many Vikings fans. They weren't ready to hear them, particularly from a Packers fan.

That said, he was met with some hostility that crossed the line. He's a fan of a rival team but that doesn't literally make him an enemy and it's not license to break the rules when addressing him. He's just an NFL football fan who likes a different team and we're talking about sports here. As a community, let's keep that in perspective and try to be good hosts as well as loyal Vikings fans.

[fiestavike]

Conflicting reports from who? Sugarman said it himself he expects a full recovery and there wasn't any nerve damage. He might be the team physician but he's still a well respected doctor who has a rather extensive history of dealing with these injuries. I think his word on this is pretty solid

Not about Teddy's injury specifically, but about this type of injury. The question seems to be, is it even possible for Sugarman and doctors to determine that there isn't nerve damage at this point, because, evidently, that is something that is typically revealed later in the process.

[Cliff]

Re: "It won't take much to reproduce Teddy's production". I don't think anybody here wanted Teddy to reproduce that production. We were hoping for a significant step forward and thought we saw it in preseason. Had he continued playing like that, the production would have come and been significantly better than last season. Obviously Teddy's production last year wasn't good enough as the Vikings didn't get to the SB so aiming to reproduce that doesn't make sense to me.

Anyway, we won't know how good or bad he might have been but it was his potential, not actual production from last year, that people don't think we can 'win it all' without. No player available is going to be able to fill Teddy's shoes in the mind of many Vikings fans, especially when those shoes are partially theoretical.

[dead_poet]

Re: "It won't take much to reproduce Teddy's production". I don't think anybody here wanted Teddy to reproduce that production. We were hoping for a significant step forward and thought we saw it in preseason. Had he continued playing like that, the production would have come and been significantly better than last season. Obviously Teddy's production last year wasn't good enough as the Vikings didn't get to the SB so aiming to reproduce that doesn't make sense to me.

Anyway, we won't know how good or bad he might have been but it was his potential, not actual production from last year, that people don't think we can 'win it all' without. No player available is going to be able to fill Teddy's shoes in the mind of many Vikings fans, especially when those shoes are partially theoretical.

Thank you

[Mothman]

Re: "It won't take much to reproduce Teddy's production". I don't think anybody here wanted Teddy to reproduce that production. We were hoping for a significant step forward and thought we saw it in preseason. Had he continued playing like that, the production would have come and been significantly better than last season. Obviously Teddy's production last year wasn't good enough as the Vikings didn't get to the SB so aiming to reproduce that doesn't make sense to me.

Anyway, we won't know how good or bad he might have been but it was his potential, not actual production from last year, that people don't think we can 'win it all' without. No player available is going to be able to fill Teddy's shoes in the mind of many Vikings fans, especially when those shoes are partially theoretical.

Well said, Cliff. It's the hope people were placing in Bridgewater that is difficult to replace.

As for production, as you indicated, it needs to be better and that's true regardless of who is playing QB. That's still not impossible, although it definitely looks more difficult.