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fiestavike wrote:Best 32 players remaining according to Hasan's composite big board.

1. Myles Jack
2. Reggie Ragland
3. A'Shawn Robinson
4. Jarran Reed
5. Noah Spence
6. Andrew Billings
7. Mackenzie Alexander
8. Jaylon Smith
9. Jonathan Bullard
10. Kevin Dodd
11. Emmanuel Ogbah
12. Cody Whitehair
13. Jason Spriggs
14. Derrick Henry
15. Michael Thomas
16. Chris Jones
17. Sterling Shephard
18. Hunter Henry
19. Kendall Fuller
20. Su'a Cravens
21. Von Bell
22.Tyler Boyd
23. Connor Cook
24. Kamalei Correa
25. Austin Johnson
26. Shilique Calhoun
27. Nick Martin
28. Braxton Miller
29. Kenneth Dixon
30. Darian Thompson
31. Joshua Perry
32. Devontae Booker
(33). Jeremy Cash

Should be an opportunity to grab a good player.

A Nick Martin could be an interesting selection to play RG this year and C going forward? Maybe Whitehair is in the same boat?
Hunter Henry or Michael Thomas could both fit well in this offense, though maybe not a desperate need for either position.
Cash, Bell, Thompson, Cravens...a lot of different flavors of Safety could be available.
Kenneth Dixon or Derrick Henry provide really different approaches to the looming post-Peterson era at RB.
Immediate impact players might include a defensive linemen. Its one of the few positions that rotates players, which allows your backups to get snaps.
Spriggs is more an athlete than a bully. Is he a guy Sparano would want? It would be nice to have next years starting LT on the roster this year.
Yes there is excellent value still available. We should have plenty of options the next few rounds
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HardcoreVikesFan wrote:Myles Jack cannot have simple meniscal tear. That wouldn't need micro fracture surgery, unless it was a complete rupture of the medial meniscus. That is cartilage that lines the joint - it reduces forces through the knee. If it was a complete rupture, that tissue is avascular, meaning it cannot heal on its own with some surgical intervention. The joint fluid supplies that tissue, but that is not enough for 'nutrition' for the tissue.

That is where micro fracture surgery would come in. That would cause localized bleeding in the area, which would allow the tissues to undergo the healing process.

However, micro fracture surgery for a medial meniscus tear is not that common. What I think is really going on is that Myles Jack has a chondral defect. That is something that can be very limiting. A lot of times, that injury does require micro fracture surgery to promote healing.
Chondral defect is what has been reported over the last few days.
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HardcoreVikesFan wrote:Myles Jack cannot have simple meniscal tear. That wouldn't need micro fracture surgery, unless it was a complete rupture of the medial meniscus. That is cartilage that lines the joint - it reduces forces through the knee. If it was a complete rupture, that tissue is avascular, meaning it cannot heal on its own with some surgical intervention. The joint fluid supplies that tissue, but that is not enough for 'nutrition' for the tissue.

That is where micro fracture surgery would come in. That would cause localized bleeding in the area, which would allow the tissues to undergo the healing process.

However, micro fracture surgery for a medial meniscus tear is not that common. What I think is really going on is that Myles Jack has a chondral defect. That is something that can be very limiting. A lot of times, that injury does require micro fracture surgery to promote healing.

Interesting! I love it when you provide this kind of input. Thanks.
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I would love to see the Vikings trade a 4th and 5th to get another 2nd pick.
Draft kentrell brothers with one. Su'a cravens with the other.
Alex Collins in the 3rd and I would super duper happy.
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Norv Zimmer wrote:I would love to see the Vikings trade a 4th and 5th to get another 2nd pick.
Draft kentrell brothers with one. Su'a cravens with the other.
Alex Collins in the 3rd and I would super duper happy.
I'd rather pass on Brothers in particular and pretty much any Mizzou player in general.
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Where will Matakevich go?

He lit up the Senior Bowl. He was in on the play for just about every snap he was on the field.

I never had him get past the third on fanspeak. NFL.com has him as a 7th rd pick. His production is incredible...I really have a hard time seeing him get past the 4th before somebody take him.

A pretty good read on him here. Reminds me a little of Chris Borland.
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Mothman wrote:
Interesting! I love it when you provide this kind of input. Thanks.
Yes, thanks, HVF. It's nice to be educated about these things. I confess I don't know much about the science of sports injuries, aside from several of my own injuries over the years.
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NFL Network's Ian Rapoport reports the Cowboys are "attempting" to acquire the No. 32 overall pick from the Browns.
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fiestavike wrote: I'd rather pass on Brothers in particular and pretty much any Mizzou player in general.

aw why :(




I'm going to be happy with Brothers, Jack, or Vonn Bell. Those are my top 3 choices. Doubt we get any of them though. Could grab brothers in r3 if vonn bell falls to us though.


edit: Nick Martin would also be a nice choice. Added depth on our line.
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I'd be okay with that outcome although that's a crappy run before our pick. Hackenberg in the 2nd? Damn, I was hoping he'd fall to 3rd/4th round where the Vikings would potentially start looking for contingencies.

Jack should be long gone but if he isn't I would pass. We have two solid LB's, how often are we in base defense, 30% maybe? This is a nickel league now, that's a luxury pick for the Vikings and not one you take when you have holes to fill.
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S197 wrote: I'd be okay with that outcome although that's a crappy run before our pick. Hackenberg in the 2nd? Damn, I was hoping he'd fall to 3rd/4th round where the Vikings would potentially start looking for contingencies.

Jack should be long gone but if he isn't I would pass. We have two solid LB's, how often are we in base defense, 30% maybe? This is a nickel league now, that's a luxury pick for the Vikings and not one you take when you have holes to fill.
Jack has the versatility to play safety in nickel and dime packages though. That is what makes him so special. Not just his ability as a WILL backer, but his ability to play out of position in sub-packages.
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Dr. James Andrews told UCLA LB Myles Jack he will not need microfracture surgery.
Andrews first examined Jack's knee in December. Jack seemed uncertain about whether he'd need surgery when discussing it earlier this week, but Andrews doesn't see the injury as a long-term issue.
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Anthony Barr just tweeted out a video of former UCLA teammate Myles Jack dunking a basketball. You know what Barr is thinking.
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HardcoreVikesFan wrote: Jack has the versatility to play safety in nickel and dime packages though. That is what makes him so special. Not just his ability as a WILL backer, but his ability to play out of position in sub-packages.
So a bit like a Cravens? I could see Zimmer having a lot of fun with a guy like that. I still don't know that the reward outweighs the risk in the 2nd round for this team.
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dead_poet wrote:NFL Network's Ian Rapoport reports the Cowboys are "attempting" to acquire the No. 32 overall pick from the Browns.
Glad Bronco's got Lynch instead of the Cowboys. Jerry must not want to chance loosing another one.

I wouldn't mind if we tried to jump back up in the 2nd with another pick.
I would like to see us get an OT like Spriggs because next year we could be having some turnover. And it would be nice to have a future replacement in the system.

And let Zimmer pick who he wants on his side of the ball.

DP thanks for keeping us updated :beerock:
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