HardcoreVikesFan wrote:I never said that I would have traded for Murray. I was attempting to show what I believe Laserman was trying to say in his previous post.
I know. I didn't say anything about you suggesting a trade for Murray. I apologize if that was unclear.
As far as Peterson not being able to catch, the first Vikings game I ever attended in person was also Peterson's first game in his NFL career. He caught a 60 yard swing pass against Atlanta for a touchdown. That was his first NFL touchdown as well. He can catch, he just hasn't been utilized in that role throughout his career.
HardcoreVikesFan wrote:
As far as Peterson not being able to catch, the first Vikings game I ever attended in person was also Peterson's first game in his NFL career. He caught a 60 yard swing pass against Atlanta for a touchdown. That was his first NFL touchdown as well. He can catch, he just hasn't been utilized in that role throughout his career.
This is something that had always puzzled me. The first year Peterson played, some of his biggest yardage plays were swing/screen passes where he was out in open field against guys he could just run over, or out speed maneuver them to the goal line. Then a year or 2 later, and he was catching a pass a game or 2 at most.
HardcoreVikesFan wrote:
I assume Laserman was talking about last offseason/season while he was still under contract with Dallas...
Either way, unless it was the offseason, I am fairly certain that being on the exempt list prohibits a team from trading a player on said list.
If Laserman was referring to the offseason in 2014, he wouldn't be incorrect. Thus, in theory, as Laserman said, we would have had a chance to trade for DeMarco.
Then it's even stupider because Murray hadn't even had a good season yet. I am so glad no one from this board is an executive fro the Vikings.
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Man this thread makes me really miss the sauce; he just came in and did his job!
Instead the NFL is full of babies who dropped their bottles and scream for attention, its hard to
support them, it really is. I guess guys like Tom Johnson and Charles Johnson keep me going
, as a NFL fan. Guys who appreciate; what they have.
Again, that would have been even stupider, because Murray had never had a good season before last year.
It is not fair to say that Murray wasn't known until this past season and wasn't 'good.' Murray was a Pro Bowler in 2013. He had almost 1,200 yards rushing, almost 400 yards receiving, averaged 5.2 yards a carry, and scored ten touchdowns.
Not saying I would have traded Adrian Peterson for Murray last year (I would NOT have), but, it is not fair to say Murray never had a good season before this last year.
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dead_poet wrote:
Thanks for posting. I enjoyed that.
It was obviously well-written and seemingly well-intended but I found it incredibly presumptuous. After admitting that, like the rest of us, he doesn't know exactly what occurred that's causing Peterson and his wife angst about continuing with the Vikings, Watson then goes on to say "Based upon the known facts of this case, it really doesn't appear that you and your wife are allowing logic to drive your decisions". It seems pretty clear that something we don't know publicly lies at the heart of this situation between Peterson and the Vikings, so, after admitting he doesn't know what's driving Peterson's position, who the heck is Watson to suggest "Peterson and his wife aren't applying reason to this situation"? For all we know they might be being very reasonable. They may even be demonstrating a great deal of integrity.... or maybe they're being obnoxious. A void of information tends to get filled by assumptions, premature conclusions and speculation.
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The comment about someone who has a regular job being fired for what AD did completely misses the actual fact that people with regular jobs do as much and far worse to their kids every. single. day.
And they don't get fired because there is not someone posting pictures of the damage on the world wide web.
And no, that's not defending AD's actions.
... the Vikings do not believe Peterson would be a malcontent once he shows up in Minnesota. I tend to agree with that stance; Peterson has too much professional pride and competitive drive to loaf on the field. And for all his concerns with people outside the team's football department, his relationships with his direct supervisors -- running backs coach Kirby Wilson, offensive coordinator Norv Turner and Zimmer -- remain strong. Essentially, a big part of the Vikings' approach is their belief Peterson won't become a problem in their locker room.
"I think the relationship is still right," Zimmer said. "I'm trying not to say what he's told me, but I think both of us, we understand we have a good relationship -- him and myself, football-wise, the team, our football organization. I think he feels good about it."
The Vikings' history has been to part with malcontents such as Randy Moss and Percy Harvin, but based on his résumé in Minnesota to this point, it wouldn't be prudent to lump Peterson in with those two. He's licking his wounds after a pratfall more than he's pouting (and yes, there's a difference). Nothing in his past suggests he would let unhappiness sap his effort on the field; if anything, Peterson has been at his best when he runs with an edge. The Vikings still think Peterson will soften his stance, and believe he can deliver a magnificent payoff if they wait. If they're committed to that strategy, though, they might have to see it through a few more weeks, even months, of an impasse.
That goes for their fans, too. Plenty of you have said you're tired of this ordeal, and those hoping for a quick resolution might not get it. We've got a long way to go before this becomes the kind of acrimonious split Brett Favre had with Green Bay, and there's a major difference in that the Vikings are trying to keep Peterson, not orchestrate a quiet departure. But whenever there's potential for things to get nasty between a team and its franchise player, though, fans often bear the brunt of the emotional damage.
Peterson didn't seem to think he'd have trouble getting his wishes granted if he asked to leave Minnesota. Perhaps that was naive, or perhaps the Vikings have taken a different tack than he expected. The team's position makes good strategic sense, and it could still result in a peace being brokered between the two sides. What became clear from Dogra's comments -- and while we're at it, Spielman and team president Mark Wilf saying they expect Peterson to be part of their team in 2015 -- is that both sides are digging in. There's no compromise that will get each party what it currently wants, and unless one changes its position, we could be doing this for a while.
I know this is speculation again but my dad said this morning on NFL radio that the new rumor regarding Peterson is that we are giving Arizona Peterson and our 2nd for Arizona's 1st and are planning on taking Gurley
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Pondering Her Percy wrote:I know this is speculation again but my dad said this morning on NFL radio that the new rumor regarding Peterson is that we are giving Arizona Peterson and our 2nd for Arizona's 1st and are planning on taking Gurley
SMH. The media is really, really, really thirsty for a trade.
None of that trade makes any sense. We give up a future HOFer and a 2nd round pick for a first round pick? Then, we are going to hope that Todd Gurley is around when we are drafting at Arizona's 24th overall pick?
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HardcoreVikesFan wrote:
SMH. The media is really, really, really thirsty for a trade.
None of that trade makes any sense. We give up a future HOFer and a 2nd round pick for a first round pick? Then, we are going to hope that Todd Gurley is around when we are drafting at Arizona's 24th overall pick?
That would be insane. I might consider their 1st round pick but no way AD and the Vikes 2nd pick.
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