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[quote="VikingLord"]The McCoy deal is worrying, though. McCoy basically was shipped for nothing.../quote]

Hardly. Alonso is a coming off a serious injury but he had a superb rookie season and he's a young player. He could prove to be an excellent player for Philadelphia for years.
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I don't think I'd say McCoy was shipped for nothing - in fact I think Philly got the better end of that deal - Alonso is a fantastic LB, younger, and costs a fraction of what McCoy does.

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Mothman wrote: Hardly. Alonso is a coming off a serious injury but he had a superb rookie season and he's a young player. He could prove to be a an excellent player for Philadelphia for years.
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Piling on regarding Alonso, a young blue chip LB would be a huge addition to this defense. Any position on defense acutally.
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I'm really wondering to what extent, if any, Peterson's wife Ashley is driving the idea that he should get a "fresh start" with another team. Apparently, even though reports originally said she was going to meet with Zimmer and Spielman along with Adrian, she didn't join them until later. According to Josina Anderson, the reporter to whom Peterson released a statement after the meeting:
I'm told only Adrian Peterson met with Mike Zimmer & Rick Spielman at his home today. Peterson wanted to express his own thoughts and beliefs.
http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sl1kik

Sigh... I can't pretend to know what's going on and I certainly didn't expect a resolution yesterday but I'm coming around to the idea that the writing is on the wall here and next week, after the league year begins, we're going to hear about a Peterson trade. If we do, I don't expect it to be a blockbuster deal, not because of the McCoy trade and whatever precedent that supposedly sets but because even if he agrees to restructure his deal for a new team, Peterson's likely going to cost that team a bundle. Consequently, a team taking on that hefty salary for a 30 year old RB isn't likely to part with a great batch of picks or a great player. If a trade IS in the works, i don't necessarily think Rick Spielman will be able to pull off another "Harvin" deal but perhaps I'm underestimating him.

Anyway, as the cliché goes, it isn't over until it's over. If money's a key issue here, it's possible Brzezinksi will be be able to get something done. If AD and/or his wife just want to move south to a warmer climate (perhaps in more than one sense) there may be nothing the Vikes can do but accommodate him and get something in return or play hardball and see how ugly it gets.

I have to say, if Bridgewater becomes the superstar some seem to think he can be, I sure hope he stays out of trouble and remains a Viking for his whole career. I'm tired of seeing great Vikings players run afoul of the law and/or finish their careers elsewhere.
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Either way, I don't want to see a hardball/holdout situation. This whole affair has been bad enough.
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Mothman wrote:I'm really wondering to what extent, if any, Peterson's wife Ashley is driving the idea that he should get a "fresh start" with another team. Apparently, even though reports originally said she was going to meet with Zimmer and Speilman along with Adrian, she didn't join them until later. According to Josina Anderson, the reporter to whom Peterson released a statement after the meeting:
http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sl1kik

Sigh... I can't pretend to know what's going on and I certainly didn't expect a resolution yesterday but I'm coming around to the idea that the writing is on the wall here and next week, after the league year begins, we're going to hear about a Peterson trade. If we do, I don't expect it to be a blockbuster deal, not because of the McCoy trade and whatever precedent that supposedly sets but because even if he agrees to restructure his deal for a new team, Peterson's likely going to cost that team a bundle. Consequently, a team taking on that hefty salary for a 30 year old RB isn't likely to part with a great batch of picks or a great player. If a trade IS in the works, i don't necessarily think Rick Spielman will be able to pull off another "Harvin" deal but perhaps I'm underestimating him.

Anyway, as the cliché goes, it isn't over until it's over. If money's a key issue here, it's possible Brzezinksi will be be able to get something done. If AD and/or his wife just want to move south to a warmer climate (perhaps in more than one sense) there may be nothing the Vikes can do but accommodate him and get something in return or play hardball and see how ugly it gets.

I have to say, if Bridgewater becomes the superstar some seem to think he can be, I sure hope he stays out of trouble and remains a Viking for his whole career. I'm tired of seeing great Vikings players run afoul of the law and/or finish their careers elsewhere.
I'd speculate that Peterson would prefer to move on and expressed as much. Spielman probably expressed a willingness to try to accommodate him but also made clear that they view him as a premier player and won't trade him for peanuts. I expect they wanted to ask/verify with Peterson that if they can't find a fair offer, he will be willing to return and give his all to the Vikings. I suspect Peterson indicated that he will do that if they can't find a trade partner, but reiterated that he would prefer to move on.

Just speculating, but that's my take on the situation.
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I know I'm in the minority but I would really like to see a good trade happen soon. Get some quality picks, possibly players and move on from this situation. Peterson is one of a kind but it's not impossible to find a good RB. They are actually fairly easier to find compared to other positions. If we could find a Jeremy Hill type RB in this draft....I would do backflips. We wouldn't be paying him hardly any money and have a very good RB.

When it comes to the future of this franchise, I truly believe it's time to move on. This is the perfect time to trade him. Before he becomes 32-33 and has much less value if any at all. Plus to add on, this is a great RB draft class. Get some legit picks for him and move on.

Guys like Gordon, Gurley, Coleman, Yeldon, Ajayi, etc. would be great. Some might say, getting rid of Peterson creates a "hole" but we're going to get multiple picks and can easily use one of those picks on a RB plus some. Not to mention we save $13 million. This is the way to go IMO
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I'm still trying to figure out exactly what grievances Peterson could possibly have with the Vikings other than the Warren deal. And if he's unable to see where the Vikings were coming from after this blew up then that's his problem. I still don't think any other team would've handled the situation any differently. I question the "fresh start" thing for a running back that may only have 4-6 more years left before retiring. Selfishly, I don't think it makes sense and staying in Minnesota would still only be a relatively short-term thing (plus it's obvious the couple doesn't stay there year-round). And if he's talking money, his present contract will all but ensure he gets the most in Minnesota (granted it makes me wonder if he plays 2015 at his current salary will they continue to give him the $31.5 million left on his contract or will we be right back here next season talking about another possible restructure?). Though it does make sense if they're going to trade him to do it now because you have to think his value will probably go down even if he has another 1,800-yard season.

I still think it makes the most sense for both sides to continue playing in Minnesota, especially if Spielman can't get what he feels like he should in a trade (which could be very likely). The big question is whether or not Peterson (and his family) can continue to be here. From all that I've read I don't see a compelling reason not other than simply preference.
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Jim, espn reports that AD's wife joined them later. I think many are taking his words and analyzing them to death (i.e. "still have). But we will see.

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Pondering Her Percy wrote:I know I'm in the minority but I would really like to see a good trade happen soon. Get some quality picks, possibly players and move on from this situation. Peterson is one of a kind but it's not impossible to find a good RB. They are actually fairly easier to find compared to other positions. If we could find a Jeremy Hill type RB in this draft....I would do backflips. We wouldn't be paying him hardly any money and have a very good RB.

When it comes to the future of this franchise, I truly believe it's time to move on. This is the perfect time to trade him. Before he becomes 32-33 and has much less value if any at all. Plus to add on, this is a great RB draft class. Get some legit picks for him and move on.

Guys like Gordon, Gurley, Coleman, Yeldon, Ajayi, etc. would be great. Some might say, getting rid of Peterson creates a "hole" but we're going to get multiple picks and can easily use one of those picks on a RB plus some. Not to mention we save $13 million. This is the way to go IMO

It's definitely logical IF they can get those good picks. I'd hate to see it happen but as you've pointed out, there's genuine RB talent in this draft class and this probably is the best time to trade him if they're going to trade him at all.
dead_poet wrote:I'm still trying to figure out exactly what grievances Peterson could possibly have with the Vikings other than the Warren deal.
As I've said before, it's possible that private promises of support were made and then broken. We'll probably never know. Maybe it's just the "Warren deal" and that's enough but since Warren was recently promoted, it's unlikely that he was a rogue operator going against the wishes of ownership.

I think people keep looking at the team's public behavior and wondering what issue Peterson could have with it but in all likelihood, the answer doesn't lie in the team's public behavior. It probably lies in words and/or actions within the organization, beyond public perception.
I question the "fresh start" thing for a running back that may only have 4-6 more years left before retiring.
I don't question that at all, although I would if reports that he wanted to go to a team like Tampa turned out to be true. If he went to a team that appeared closer to a championship, I'd completely understand it. A 'fresh start' on a good team, with potentially years of good production left in him, could help him win a championship and if it was in a community that might be more accepting of him than Minnesota may be at this point, he and his family might ultimately be happier.
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PurpleMustReign wrote:Jim, espn reports that AD's wife joined them later.

I know. I posted that above. :)
I think many are taking his words and analyzing them to death (i.e. "still have). But we will see.
Oh, they're definitely being over-analyzed!
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dead_poet wrote:I'm still trying to figure out exactly what grievances Peterson could possibly have with the Vikings other than the Warren deal. And if he's unable to see where the Vikings were coming from after this blew up then that's his problem. I still don't think any other team would've handled the situation any differently. I question the "fresh start" thing for a running back that may only have 4-6 more years left before retiring. Selfishly, I don't think it makes sense and staying in Minnesota would still only be a relatively short-term thing (plus it's obvious the couple doesn't stay there year-round). And if he's talking money, his present contract will all but ensure he gets the most in Minnesota (granted it makes me wonder if he plays 2015 at his current salary will they continue to give him the $31.5 million left on his contract or will we be right back here next season talking about another possible restructure?). Though it does make sense if they're going to trade him to do it now because you have to think his value will probably go down even if he has another 1,800-yard season.

I still think it makes the most sense for both sides to continue playing in Minnesota, especially if Spielman can't get what he feels like he should in a trade (which could be very likely). The big question is whether or not Peterson (and his family) can continue to be here. From all that I've read I don't see a compelling reason not other than simply preference.
I haven't been following the story too closely but the one thing that stands out for me is Peterson's comments about the Governor of Minnesota. Maybe "still" has nothing to do with the Vikings.
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Paul Allen from KFAN reported on the radio that Adrian changed his Twitter pic/background to purple and gold.

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I so want him to retire in Minny.

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I really found the Governor's comment to be out of line considering his pulpit and the way he worded it. Given AD's popularity and social status in Minnesota I can see why the remark would rub he and his wife the wrong way. It's a good point IMO.
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