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DKSweets wrote:When you say now, how literally do you mean "now"? Because I think Tom Brady and Peyton Manning could probably have helped this team out this year.
Oh, they would've definitely helped this year and maybe next. But I'm talking an even swap. What is Brady or Manning going to look like 3 years from now when they're 40+? Would you give up your future for 1 or 2 good years?
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808vikingsfan wrote: Oh, they would've definitely helped this year and maybe next. But I'm talking an even swap. What is Brady or Manning going to look like 3 years from now when they're 40+? Would you give up your future for 1 or 2 good years?
Oh, I agree. I just wanted to make sure I understood.
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808vikingsfan wrote: I was thinking something similar after the Bears lost to the Saints. Prior to this year, I would've taken Cutler in a heartbeat. Not anymore. It got me thinking. What current QB would I take in place of Bridgewater now? The list isn't very long. Rodgers, Luck, Wilson, Newton, Romo. Maybe Flacco, Rivers, or Stafford. That's about it for me. Yeah, purple shades. I'm not saying Bridewater is the 9th best QB right now. I just think his upside can be really, really good.
Cam Newton??!!! Not a chance I would take him over Teddy. Others I wouldn't take are probably Romo. It's a toss up with Flacco and Stafford.....but Newton??? No way in hell. Another running QB that has awful mechanics and relies on his legs. Oh and the fact that his accuracy is dreadful. Some say Teddys is bad.....Cams is 2 times worse
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More stats and stuff from Siefert regarding Sunday's game against the Lions

http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcnorth/post/_ ... dgewater-4
Bridgewater connected on 31 of them, giving him a career-high completion percentage of 75.6 to go along with 315 yards. There are a few things we can say about the performance to put it into historical context, which I realize can be somewhat skewed given the recent rise in NFL passing efficiency.

First, it was the fifth-highest completion percentage for an NFL quarterback this season who threw at least 40 passes in the game, according to the Pro Football Reference database.

Second, it was the highest completion percentage in a game for a rookie quarterback with at least 40 attempts in NFL history.

What does this mean?

Bridgewater brought with him from college a reputation for exceptional short- and midrange accuracy. A quarterback doesn't have to throw the ball 15 yards downfield on every play to put up a 300-yard game. In fact, Bridgewater averaged 3.88 air yards per attempt Sunday, the lowest of any quarterback in Week 15, according to ESPN Stats & Information.

There are plenty of ways to peel an apple, and the Vikings are moving closer to understanding how best to do it with Bridgewater.
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PurpleKoolaid wrote: Yet what seems to be more important then that, is to prove Teddy's first INT Sunday, was just a horribly inaccurate pass, that had nothing to do with CJ saying it was his own fault, or had a LB draped all over him, kicking CJ's feet just enough, to make it impossible to catch or even try to catch.

Forget the fact Teddys is putting up 300+ yard games, with basically below average WRs, and injured TE, and an Oline that's among the worst ive seen. And for the love of god! Don't say was might, just might, have found our QB of the future.
Yeah, I know :D I just quoted this quote, cause I thought the same thing when I saw the 300 yard passing stat. Which is pretty exciting.
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:shock:
Let's hope Teddy keeps it up. But really? After 10 starts your going to say you'd take him over guys who've had multiple seasons better than what Teddy is currently doing? That might be going a bit far. Especially after last game, when he was one of the bigger factors contributing to the loss.

But then, the grass is always greener...we had people defending Ponder just this season. :confused:
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mansquatch wrote:I can’t believe the Babyface thing hasn’t come up in the media yet. It just seems like an obvious nickname for him.
I hope his nick ends up being, "Teddy IceWater" :thumbsup:
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Demi wrote::shock:
Let's hope Teddy keeps it up. But really? After 10 starts your going to say you'd take him over guys who've had multiple seasons better than what Teddy is currently doing? That might be going a bit far. Especially after last game, when he was one of the bigger factors contributing to the loss.

But then, the grass is always greener...we had people defending Ponder just this season. :confused:
Lol. Oh come on now Demi, you have even said it yourself: Teddy Bridgewater isn't even in the same ball park as Ponder. Teddy is our future, and while he may not be on Luck's/Wilson's level, it isn't asinine to think he will not be a top ten QB in this league by next year or in a couple of years.
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HardcoreVikesFan wrote: Lol. Oh come on now Demi, you have even said it yourself: Teddy Bridgewater isn't even in the same ball park as Ponder. Teddy is our future, and while he may not be on Luck's/Wilson's level, it isn't asinine to think he will not be a top ten QB in this league by next year or in a couple of years.
I don't think he's in the same park as Ponder. That wasn't my point. My point was some people were defending Ponder when it was clear he wasn't defensible. And now some people are promoting Bridgewater as if it's done, he's here. A decade long franchise QB.

He's currently sitting at 25th in QB rating. 11 td 10 int. Yeah he's shown promise. But Jaws said Koepernick could possibly be the best QB EVER going forward a year or two ago. We're not making the playoffs, we played a weak schedule, there's a lot going on and for some people to just declare we have our quarterback and they'd take him over Cam/Cutler, who have both had multiple seasons better than Teddy's season this year? How can you even say that when all you have to work on is "maybe" or "if"?
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Demi wrote: I don't think he's in the same park as Ponder. That wasn't my point. My point was some people were defending Ponder when it was clear he wasn't defensible. And now some people are promoting Bridgewater as if it's done, he's here. A decade long franchise QB.

He's currently sitting at 25th in QB rating. 11 td 10 int. Yeah he's shown promise. But Jaws said Koepernick could possibly be the best QB EVER going forward a year or two ago. We're not making the playoffs, we played a weak schedule, there's a lot going on and for some people to just declare we have our quarterback and they'd take him over Cam/Cutler, who have both had multiple seasons better than Teddy's season this year? How can you even say that when all you have to work on is "maybe" or "if"?
I don't care what anyone says....I will take Teddy Bridgewater any day over Cutler or Newton. Cutler and Newton are both bad QBs. If Teddy doesn't end up panning out, then all 3 are bad QBs. However, no matter if Teddy turns out good or bad, I would never want Cutler or Newton on this team. Why?? Because they CANT WIN.

Cutler has been blessed with an unreal WR core, an elite RB, and a very good defense (most years) and has been to the playoffs 1 time. ONE in 9 seasons. He is the king of choking and somebody (I can't remember exactly who) said it perfect the other day...."Jay Cutler gets offensive coordinators fired" and it couldn't be more true. If you can't win with the amount of talent he has around him, then there is a serious problem and you shouldn't be starting in this league. Hence, why he is now sitting on the bench.

Newton is a completely different style QB and fits the "college QB" category IMO. Another guy that is not a traditional pocket passer, has horrible accuracy and mechanics, relies on his legs too much and can't win. The only reason they went anywhere last year is because they had the 3rd overall defense in the NFL. It was his best season of his career but by no means was it impressive. Career BEST 61.7 completion percentage. Teddy's is 63.5 and he's a rookie......and people complain about Teddy's accuracy issues?? Look at Newton now, he's horrid.

I'm not sitting here saying Teddy is WAY better that these two guys because he has only played in 10 games and it's still hard to judge. However, my point is, no matter what, I would never want Cam Newton or Jay Cutler on this team. Not a chance. One is already taking a seat on the bench and the other probably isn't far from it.

So in turn, I'll take Teddy :)
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One is already taking a seat on the bench and the other probably isn't far from it.

So in turn, I'll take Teddy :)
:confused: Cam and Cutler were unquestionable starters week 1. Teddy was on the bench until an injury to the mighty Matt Cassell.

Cam and Jay aren't on the bench because the guy behind them are better QBs. And won't be.

Who knows how it plays out 10 years from now, but right now? Both Cam and Cutler have had multiple seasons better than Teddy.

If Cutler or Cam were the Vikings QB, with Teddy, you'd be singing a different tune... :roll:
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I actually think that right now, Cam Newton is better. I believe Teddy will be better, but I'm not willing to guarantee that.

I definitely want nothing to do with Cutler, huge contract or not.
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@Andrew_Krammer -- If season ended today, Teddy Bridgewater's 63.5% completion rate would rank 2nd all-time among NFL rookie QBs; Marino in 2nd w/ 58.5%
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dead_poet wrote:
I don't think that's right, but his completion percentage is still very impressive!
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Demi wrote: :confused: Cam and Cutler were unquestionable starters week 1. Teddy was on the bench until an injury to the mighty Matt Cassell.

Cam and Jay aren't on the bench because the guy behind them are better QBs. And won't be.

Who knows how it plays out 10 years from now, but right now? Both Cam and Cutler have had multiple seasons better than Teddy.

If Cutler or Cam were the Vikings QB, with Teddy, you'd be singing a different tune... :roll:
No s### Cam and Cutler have had "multiple" better seasons than Teddy. Teddy hasn't even played a full season so obviously they would have better seasons.

I stand by my word and would be unbelievably furious if Cam or Cutler were the Vikings right now. So think what you want, but I've never liked either of them. Why would I be "singing a different tune"??? That idiot Cutler can't succeed with Jeffery, Marshall, Bennett, Forte, and usually a good defense so what does that tell you?? He sucks. As for Newton, he's the typical college QB that doesn't have what it takes to be a legitimate NFL QB. He relies on his legs but has some of the worst accuracy and mechanics I have ever seen. Guys on here b#### and complain about Teddy's accuracy yet he has the 2nd best completion percentage ever right now for a rookie. Oh and Newtons is pretty horrid. So no, I'd be singing the same damn tune I'm singing right now.

As for Cassel going down and the backups of the other 2......a lot of rookie QBs don't nexessarily start week 1. You're sitting there acting like Cassel was way better than Teddy and that's why Teddy didn't start. No, the coaches didn't want to rush Teddy into the starting gig and Cassel had a pretty good preseason. We saw in the first game Teddy started how much better he was than Cassel. Obviously Jimmy Clausen isn't better than Jay Cutler but why was Jay Cutler benched?? BECAUSE HE SUCKS! Year in and year out he has a talented team and makes them into an average team.

So go ahead and say Cam and Cutler are better because they've had better seasons but in all reality it makes zero sense and has no relevance to the argument. So once again, I would take Teddy Bridgewater any day over Jay Cutler or Cam Newton.
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