Teddy Bridgewater

[Craws84]

When Cassel slips up Bridgewater will capitalize and b the starter for years to come. Just root for Cassel in the meantime.

[Craws84]

[84BreaksAnkles]

I agree. Actually, I thought the Rams provided strong pressure on Cassel and he kept his cool pretty well. That comes from experience, knowing what to do and when to do it.

I can easily imagine Bridgewater eventually having a career far greater than Cassel's. But right now I'm glad the veteran is in there at QB.

Here's what I can't understand via some perspectives.... The consensus I am picking up is that
1) yes folks believe Ted can/will have a better career than Matt Cassel's.
2) Matt Cassel's experience is mainly what makes him more viable than Teddy, in folks' opinion

OK, well ask yourself this. Are we going to win a superbowl with Matt Cassel this year?? Then why would we not be getting the guy who will be better and is ready to start his journey, HIS EXPERIENCE?

I want someone to convince me of this...
Why would it be better for Teddy to NOT break down his own film down in mon-fri meetings, with Norv, Scott, and SAAVY VETERAN HELPER-TO-TEDDY in MC? Teddy starts getting a feel for our reciever's timings, and trust bonds begin to form. He starts doing a better job recognizing coverages, determining pressure, etc...

It's not like a kid like that will implode out there with that much of a good support system.
I'm looking to the future, but the future is now.

[84BreaksAnkles]

When Cassel slips up Bridgewater will capitalize and b the starter for years to come. Just root for Cassel in the meantime.

Ok Agreed, and I'll stop now. That statement just has too much reason. LES GO MATTHEW

[Purple bruise]

Ok Agreed, and I'll stop now. That statement just has too much reason. LES GO MATTHEW

Had those 2 near interceptions "bounced" the other way a lot more of us fans would be more vocal about giving TB his chance NOW.

[84BreaksAnkles]

Yeah, then what would his stat line have been? <170yds 2 TD, 2 INT, 17/25
Just saying, here were Cassel's drives - For everyone who thinks he did "Great" With what opportunities he had..


Drive 1 - FG Plays: 11 Yards: ~70 Ya Kalil's 2 falsers hurt us, but still we needed to get a 7 there...

Drive 2 - PUNT Plays: 6 Yards: 24 After a 17-yd run by AD, Cassel's 1-for-3 for 2 yds passing series stumbled

Drive 3 - FG Plays: 5 Yards: ~35 After CP's 2nd end-around, Cassel goes 1-for-2 for 9 yds

Drive 4 - PUNT Plays: 7 Yards:-7 CP had a holding call, but 2 cadence issues as we had Asiata, and Kalil with Falses...

Drive 5 - PUNT Plays: 9 Yards: 39 Cassel goes 3-for-5 for 44 yds, Took a sack, and almost threw an INT....

Drive 6 - TD Plays: 4 Yards:35 Cassel's best drive by far, going 3-for-3 for 30 yds, handled pressure well, delivered a good ball to greg

Drive 7 - PUNT Plays: 10 Yards: 13 After, a holding call, a few nice runs by AD, Cassel goes 2-for-3 for 12 yds, then botches the snap, and recovers for a major loss on a big 3rd down...

Drive 8 - TD Plays: 1 Yards: 67 Joan rivers could have pitched that ball out to Cordarrelle....

Drive 9 - PUNT Plays: 4 Yards: 3 Cassel goes 1-for-2 for 5 yds....

Drive 10 - TD* Plays: 10 Yards: 70 After originally punting after 7 plays, a ROUGHING THE KICKER CALL, allowed our drive to continue. That said, Cassel ultimately capitalized and took advantage of this opportunity to go 4-for-4 for 48 yds, with a nice TD to Rudolph.


Overall takeaways:
-50% of our drives with Cassel result in points
-60% of our scoring drives with Cassel result in TD's, HOWEVER, only 40% of our scoring drives with Cassel result in TDs because of a direct impact from his play. ( See Drive 8 )
-50% of our drives with Cassel result in punts
-40% of our drives with Cassel resulted in fewer than 30 yds
-20% of our drives with Cassel come with near interceptions
-Our yds-per-drive median average with Cassel is 34 yds
-20% of our drives with Cassel resulted in fewer than 4 yds
-20% of our drives resulted in Cassel throwing 100% completion rating and Throwing a TD

After it was all said and done, there was not one long drive that Matt just took command of and got us into the endzone Directly because of his efforts. Drive 10 was kept alive by a roughing the kicker, drive 6 was 35 yds (although, very, very nice by Matt), drive 1 was a FG.....

*Edit - I will now rewatch the game and compile Cassel's #'s for vs more than a 4-man rush, and his %'s vs. any pressure

[Purple bruise]

Yeah, then what would his stat line have been? <170yds 2 TD, 2 INT, 17/25
Just saying, here were Cassel's drives - For everyone who thinks he did "Great" With what opportunities he had..


Drive 1 - FG Plays: 11 Yards: ~70 Ya Kalil's 2 falsers hurt us, but still we needed to get a 7 there...

Drive 2 - PUNT Plays: 6 Yards: 24 After a 17-yd run by AD, Cassel's 1-for-3 for 2 yds passing series stumbled

Drive 3 - FG Plays: 5 Yards: ~35 After CP's 2nd end-around, Cassel goes 1-for-2 for 9 yds

Drive 4 - PUNT Plays: 7 Yards:-7 CP had a holding call, but 2 cadence issues as we had Asiata, and Kalil with Falses...

Drive 5 - PUNT Plays: 9 Yards: 39 Cassel goes 3-for-5 for 44 yds, Took a sack, and almost threw an INT....

Drive 6 - TD Plays: 4 Yards:35 Cassel's best drive by far, going 3-for-3 for 30 yds, handled pressure well, delivered a good ball to greg

Drive 7 - PUNT Plays: 10 Yards: 13 After, a holding call, a few nice runs by AD, Cassel goes 2-for-3 for 12 yds, then botches the snap, and recovers for a major loss on a big 3rd down...

Drive 8 - TD Plays: 1 Yards: 67 Joan rivers could have pitched that ball out to Cordarrelle....

Drive 9 - PUNT Plays: 4 Yards: 3 Cassel goes 1-for-2 for 5 yds....

Drive 10 - TD* Plays: 10 Yards: 70 After originally punting after 7 plays, a ROUGHING THE KICKER CALL, allowed our drive to continue. That said, Cassel ultimately capitalized and took advantage of this opportunity to go 4-for-4 for 48 yds, with a nice TD to Rudolph.


Overall takeaways:
-50% of our drives with Cassel result in points
-60% of our scoring drives with Cassel result in TD's, HOWEVER, only 40% of our scoring drives with Cassel result in TDs because of a direct impact from his play. ( See Drive 8 )
-50% of our drives with Cassel result in punts
-20% of our drives with Cassel come with near interceptions
-Our yds-per-drive median average with Cassel is 34 yds
-40% of our drives with Cassel resulted in fewer than 30 yds
-20% of our drives with Cassel resulted in fewer than 4 yds

After it was all said and done, there was not one long drive that Matt just took command of and got us into the endzone Directly because of his efforts. Drive 10 was kept alive by a roughing the kicker, drive 6 was 35 yds (although, very, very nice by Matt), drive 1 was a FG.....

That took some effort It is past Teddy Time, the future is now!

[84BreaksAnkles]

Here is my film-study of Cassel vs pressure....


Cassel vs more than 4-man pressure:
10-for-16 for 93 yds, 1TD, 0INT, 2SACK (-34 yds)
Plays: 18
Notes:
1st Quarter

1)12:31 3rd & 2 from our own 38 - identified 5-man pressure, boot-legged to his right, throw on the run to greg jennings for ~9yds- 1st down
2) 11:27 big set, 2nd & 8 from opp 49 - failed to identify 5-man pressure, got hurried tried to fake screen to the left, and barely got out a risky ball to adrian on the right side screen for 10 yds- 1st down. Almost got sacked/fumbled/int
3) 5:38 shotgun, identified 6-man pressure nicely, nice quick throw, good footwork and unfortunate drop by jarius on the sideline.
4) 5:30 3rd & 8 from our own 33, shotgun trips right, exotic blitz look, does not fully identify 7-man pressure, or quickly adjust by shortening his drop or looking at his checkdown, hit from behind as he throws- ball popped up like a duck, could have very well been intercepted.

2nd Quarter
5) 15:00 2nd & 10 from our own 37, shotgun 2TE, 2WR - Identifies 7-man pressure REALLY well, quick throw to Cordarrelle on the back shoulder fade. Very nice throw, gave CP a chance, good coverage, incomplete.
6) 2:46 2nd & 10 from our own 28, 2 TE, identified pressure at the line, 8-man pressure, Visibly adjusted and quickened his drop and release to avoid the identified pressure, throw was tipped at the line (crowded pocket)
7) 2:38 3rd & 10, shotgun 3 WR, Identified 5-man stunt blitz, made a quick decision- stepped up threw a nice ball down the middle to Jennings for 16 yds.
8 ) 2:07 1st & 10 from our own 46, shotgun 3 WR with Rudolph split out, easily identified 6-man pressure, had a lot of time, made a nice throw to jennings on the slant, good coverage -dropped ball.
9) 2:01 2nd & 10 shotgun, 2 WR jerrick mckinnon motion wide, couldn't tell if he identified the 7-man pressure, botched the snap (hit Cassel in both hands), recovered it, and did a nice job to hang on to the football as he got a huge hit.
10) 0:50 2nd & 5 from STL 30, shotgun 3 WR with rudolph split out, Identifies 6-man pressure, quick drop, quick good decision on the outside hitch for CP. 12 yds -1st down.

3rd Quarter
11) 8:01 3rd & 7 from our own 47, shotgun, 3 WR with rudy split out, Identifies 5-man pressure well, quick drop and release - good throw to CP on the out route. 9 yds - 1st down.
12) 7:01 2nd & 6 from STL 42, bunch trips right with CP out left, Barely escapes unidentified 7-man pressure, should have audibled out of play action, barely gets throw off to jennings on a 1 yd gain.
13) 6:19 3rd & 5 from STL 41, shotgun, 3 WR with rudy split, identifies pressure pre-snap, what looks like 6-man. tries to change protection, miscommunication with Sully, wasn't ready for snap. Fumble- recovered by Matt for a sack.

4th Quarter
14) 15:00 2nd & 12 from our own 28, shotgun 4 WR with rudy split out, empty backfield, identified 6-man pressure, quick throw to rudolph underneath, hit as he threw. incomplete.
15) 11:09 2nd & 9 from our own 31,
shotgun 3 WR rudy split, identifies 7-man pressure, makes quick throw to greg jennings on the outside hitch, 10 yds -1st down.
16) 8:23 3rd & 14 from our own 48, shotgun 3WR rudy split, identifies 5-man pressure, quick throw to cordarrelle on the designed wr Bubble screen. 9 yds to jarius.
17) 7:35 1st & 10 from STL 28, nice play-action, identifies 6-man pressure, hits ellison on the nice out with pressure in his face. 22 yds -1st down.
18) 6:31 2nd & goal from the 7, shotgun, identifies 6-man pressure, but quinn wrecks kalil on cassel's blind-side, just before he gets unknowingly crushed, he throws a beautiful throw on the move to rudolph for a TD.


Cassel vs pressure (less than 5-man)
2-for-4 for 27 yds, 1TD, 0INT, 0SACK
Plays: 4

Notes:
1st Quarter
1) 10:16 1 hurry by a 4-man rush, had a bit of time, just didn't release the ball well

2nd Quarter
2) 4:13 1st & 5, identified the pocket collapsing and looked off linebackers on the zone-spy, dumped it of to jarius wright on the flat-checkdown quickly. Got rid of it nice and quick. ~15 yds -1st down
3)0:26 2nd & 1 from STL 8, pocket collapsed under a 4-man rush, Cassel identified it quickly, and read coverages well, delivering TD strike to Jennings. Good throw.

3rd Quarter
4) 8:07 2nd & 7 from our own 47, shotgun, 3 WR, 4-man pressure, pocket collapses, Cassel hit as he throws, ball is a duck, almost picked. intended for Rudolph.
Cadence issues:4

[maembe]

Cassel was fine, about as good as we can expect from him, but this game reminded of when Ponder was playing "well" toward the end of 2012. He didn't really do much other than protect the football and complete some high percentage passes while the defense won the game. I don't think a pass traveled 15 yards in the air the entire game. We're playing some high powered offenses pretty soon, so I don't think we're always going to be able to sit back and just not make mistakes like we did on Sunday and I still don't have any more confidence in Cassel to elevate this team than I did going in to the season.

I don't see any reason to delay Teddy's development unless someone honestly believes we can be a great team/superbowl contender with Cassel at the helm, in which case, I'll have what he's having.

[Crax]

Cassel was fine, about as good as we can expect from him, but this game reminded of when Ponder was playing "well" toward the end of 2012. He didn't really do much other than protect the football and complete some high percentage passes while the defense won the game. I don't think a pass traveled 15 yards in the air the entire game. We're playing some high powered offenses pretty soon, so I don't think we're always going to be able to sit back and just not make mistakes like we did on Sunday and I still don't have any more confidence in Cassel to elevate this team than I did going in to the season.

I don't see any reason to delay Teddy's development unless someone honestly believes we can be a great team/superbowl contender with Cassel at the helm, in which case, I'll have what he's having.

I think this may be a bad game to judge it on though. Cassel did what he needed to and Greg Williams runs a blitz heavy defense with a good D Line. Quick short passes seem to be a good idea to alleviate that pressure. People are also complaining a bit about how much we ran it, but I think the game plan was sound vs the defense we were going against.

Playing against NE I think will fill us in more on the overall offensive approach

[losperros]

Yeah, then what would his stat line have been? <170yds 2 TD, 2 INT, 17/25
Just saying, here were Cassel's drives - For everyone who thinks he did "Great" With what opportunities he had..

Points well taken.

That said, Cassel is a *backup* quarterback that is filling in for right now. That's his job.

Teddy Bridgewater was drafted to be the future quarterback of the team. Right now he's learning. That's his job. Every game he watches he will learn from what he's seeing, and I kind of like that he's not being thrown to the wolves right now. That way there won't be anyone prematurely calling him a bust if he doesn't know all there is to know during his rookie year. It also will make his transition to starter smoother in other ways.

Zimmer and his staff has seen these two guys every day since training camp. They made the decision to do things the way they're currently being done. That's their job.

Maybe our jobs as fans should be to root for the team. And for Cassel for now. We'll be rooting for the team and TB soon enough.

[maembe]

I think this may be a bad game to judge it on though.

I don't think anyone's judging Cassel on last game alone. More like his 3 consecutive years of mediocre to bad quarterback play.

[Purple bruise]

I don't think anyone's judging Cassel on last game alone. More like his 3 consecutive years of mediocre to bad quarterback play.

His lack of mobility and their average to poor pass protecting line will spell dissaster IMO. TB, on the other hand is much more elussive and handles pressure quite well.

[Mridens]

His lack of mobility and their average to poor pass protecting line will spell dissaster IMO. TB, on the other hand is much more elussive and handles pressure quite well.

I like the way you think, sir.

But how can you be so certain TB handles pressure well, when he has never taken a regular season snap against the a #1 NFL D? As Anthony Barr said today, the NFL is way faster than college. And that's coming from a big fast freak. I just think "better safe than sorry" is the approach to take with our franchise QB-to-be.

[Purple bruise]

I like the way you think, sir.

But how can you be so certain TB handles pressure well, when he has never taken a regular season snap against the a #1 NFL D? As Anthony Barr said today, the NFL is way faster than college. And that's coming from a big fast freak. I just think "better safe than sorry" is the approach to take with our franchise QB-to-be.[/quote]

I guess the same way that the Colts let Luck, the 49ers with Kapernick, and the Hawks with Wilson. TB has shown a lot in college and has done extremely well in the pre-season. What is there to lose, let him play and if he screws up you take him out and let Cassel play IMO