Vikings sign S Kurt Coleman

[chicagopurple]

Given that NO ONE on our team knows how to intercept the ball, its hard NOT to see him as an upgrade.

[King James]

After looking at those highlights, I must say he's a pretty good tackler. Those tackles he made on Peterson were impressive. I don't know, Zimmer may be able to turn this guy into something. I wouldn't mind seeing this guy on special teams though. He seems like the type of player that can make a touchdown saving tackle.

[King James]

He almost throws as good as Tom Brady.

[Purple bruise]

Dude it's Highlight tape. It's cherry picked.

I could find Christian Ponder highlights too.

OK then he does suck and it was a stupid signing, got it.

[Loki]

80 PurplePride 84 Why are you so against Coleman? You seemed OK with the Lestar Jean signing and told me

It's just a signing to bring in more competition. They'll at least sign a couple UDFAs too. More competition is better.

Jean was actually expected/hoped by a lot and be the #3 for Texans last year but it never happened and he sat at the end of the depth chart.

I don't think he'll make the team but it's definitely good for Smith and Thielen to have veteran competition to push them.

So you're more OK with a mediocre receiver who probably won't make the team, has no special teams value, has 10 catches in his entire career, and HAS NO HIGHLIGHT VIDEO. Than a descent safety who will all but guaranteed make the roster, would likely be excellent on special teams, has started almost 3 times as many games as Jean has catches, is younger than Jean, plays a position we actually need help at, and last but not least has made enough plays to HAVE A HIGHLIGHT VIDEO.

Just doesn't seem logical that you'd be OK with Jean and somehow frustrated by Coleman, if there is some hidden logic there I'd love to hear it.

[Purple bruise]

80 PurplePride 84 Why are you so against Coleman? You seemed OK with the Lestar Jean signing and told me
So you're more OK with a mediocre receiver who probably won't make the team, has no special teams value, has 10 catches in his entire career, and HAS NO HIGHLIGHT VIDEO. Than a descent safety who will all but guaranteed make the roster, would likely be excellent on special teams, has started almost 3 times as many games as Jean has catches, is younger than Jean, plays a position we actually need help at, and last but not least has made enough plays to HAVE A HIGHLIGHT VIDEO.

Just doesn't seem logical that you'd be OK with Jean and somehow frustrated by Coleman, if there is some hidden logic there I'd love to hear it.

This +1

[Purple bruise]

Because Jean is a camp body who probably won't even make the team and if he does it will be as the 5th WR and will rarely see the field. There is nothing to complain about there. If it wasn't him it'd have been some other scrub. If they signed Jean with the intention of him being our 2nd or 3rd WR, then I'd have a problem.

Coleman has a much better chance of seeing the field than Jean does and is pretty horrible. If Coleman is only taking Mistral Raymond's roster spot, then sure, whatever, but he is Madieu Williams bad in coverage. But at least Williams was good in Cincy, Coleman was never good. Eagles fans couldn't wait to get rid of him.


One is a bad player who most likely won't be here in September. The other is a bad player who might end up starting for us. I'd rather have Sanford.

Eagle fans could not wait to get rid of him Where did you come up with that nugget of information And if he is brought into camp with a clean slate, as Zimmer said, and wins a job then what will you say???

[Purple bruise]

I came up with that "nugget of information" because I live in Philly and deal with Eagles fans on a daily basis.

And if he comes in and plays well, and I hope he does, then I will eat crow.

I don't want Manziel anywhere near this team either but if we draft him, I'll hope he proves me wrong, I won't root for him to fail just to be proven right like some people did with Ponder.

Nice to hear that about Ponder 'cause that always baffled me why some "fans" rooted against him even when he was winning.
As far as Eagle fans not being able to wait until they got rid of Coleman, I went on 2 Eagle forums and did not find that to be the case at all. In fact several were not happy about letting him go.

[HardcoreVikesFan]

Just out of curiosity what would you be doing about the other safety position? The Vikes still could be planning on getting a safety thru the draft or maybe signing/trading for another veteran. Keep in mind that Smith can and has played both safety positions and could easily move to either to accomadate another of the new/old safeties.

Well personally, I would have not signed Kurt Coleman! I would have liked to see the team target Chris Clemons, Mike Mitchell, Daniel Manning, or Stevie Brown this offseason to play opposite of Harrison. Oh well, water under the bridge I suppose.


I know it doesn't necessarily preclude the Vikings from drafting a safety, but it certainly doesn't mean they will draft one.

[Loki]

Because Jean is a camp body who probably won't even make the team and if he does it will be as the 5th WR and will rarely see the field. There is nothing to complain about there. If it wasn't him it'd have been some other scrub. If they signed Jean with the intention of him being our 2nd or 3rd WR, then I'd have a problem.

Coleman has a much better chance of seeing the field than Jean does and is pretty horrible. If Coleman is only taking Mistral Raymond's roster spot, then sure, whatever, but he is Madieu Williams bad in coverage. But at least Williams was good in Cincy, Coleman was never good. Eagles fans couldn't wait to get rid of him.

One is a bad player who most likely won't be here in September. The other is a bad player who might end up starting for us. I'd rather have Sanford.

So your reasoning for liking Jean over Coleman is that Jean won't make the team and Coleman might start?

Sounds like you're problem is more with trust in the coaching staff to start the right players than it is with the players talent. I doubt Coleman will start if that's what your so worried about, maybe rotate with Sanford on occasion and be a solid tackler on special teams.

[saint33]

I never said I liked the Jean signing. I just didn't hate it because there was no reason to.

I'm confused, what makes you think this signing is any different though? Kurt Coleman was not signed to a contract that would indicate a real intent from the team to start him. His play leading up to this point would not indicate he has a real chance to earn a starting role, you seem to especially believe this.

So what's the issue? To me, the only situation in which Coleman is starting is one in which he's earned that right. Which either means he's improved or the competition at safety is that poor. In either case, if Coleman is the best on the roster come September, I don't see why he shouldn't be starting.

In all reality, he's competing for a backup and special teams spot. He is the Lestar Jean equivalent at the safety position.

[Eli]

Does anyone have any idea why Kurt Coleman's signing doesn't yet show up as a transaction on vikings.com, nor is he shown on the roster? Meanwhile, Reisner and Manning both show.

[saint33]

Does anyone have any idea why Kurt Coleman's signing doesn't yet show up as a transaction on vikings.com, nor is he shown on the roster? Meanwhile, Reisner and Manning both show.

it depends on when it's "official" all the papers have been signed and processed in the league. Everson Griffen and Matt Cassel's deals took like 4 or 5 days after they were announced on most sites to be officially announced on the Vikings website.

[Pondering Her Percy]

I don't mind this signing at all. Coleman has always been a fiery guy and has some starting experience. He's a physical player (similar to Sanford) that isn't as good in coverage. For those complaining about every the last 4 signings we have had (Coleman, Manning, Reisner, Jean), I really don't understand you. These are depth/camp signings.

You complain about Coleman and act like there are SO many starters left out there that we are just passing over. It's late in free agency, just about everything you get now is backup/depth material. I mean who do you really want? Yeremiah Bell? Ed Reed? Quintin Mikell? Guys that are so far out of their prime its not even funny. Spielman is obviously trying to make this team younger. Our oldest free agent out of the 10 new guys we signed is ONLY in his 5th season and we're about to add 8+ rookies to the roster.

With signings like these last 4, I don't see how anyone can consider it a waste of money. They are getting veteran minimum contracts. Do you realize how LITTLE that effects salary cap space and this teams future?? Not at all!

Our coach is Mike Zimmer who is notorious for making "nobody's" into "somebody's". Relax, sit back, have a beer, and let the guy coach up these players.

[NextQuestion]

The problem with that nice tackle stat from 2012: Eagles defense was horrible. Guys like Nnamdi and DRC were getting absolutely torched and I wouldn't be surprised if most of these tackles were after CBs were burned.