Mack or Mosley in the 1st and Garoppolo in the 2nd
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Mack or Mosley in the 1st and Garoppolo in the 2nd
My wish list, I wouldn't touch teddy bridgewater or any other qb in this draft other than zach mettenburger or maybe Arron Murray late in the 3rd or 4th round, I would be jacked if the vikes ended up with both of these guys! Skol
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Yeah, it seems like the ideal scenario would be that Mack makes it to us. That doesn't seems like it's going to happen though. I would love to get Mettenberger or Garoppolo in the 2nd or 3rd.
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Yea im starting to think Mack might go in the top 5. If that happens i think we would be best off trading down and getting the best defensive player whether it be Mosley, Nix, Dennard or someone else. Then trade our 2nd rounder and one of our three 3rd round picks to jump ahead of the teams that didn't pick QB in the 1st and take Garoppolo, Carr, or Mettenberger depending on who Spielman and Turner like best. This is just an ideal scenario that could happen but its way too early to say for sure what they have planned, right now we need to focus on Free agency and finding some solid players to turn the defense around.maembe wrote:Yeah, it seems like the ideal scenario would be that Mack makes it to us. That doesn't seems like it's going to happen though. I would love to get Mettenberger or Garoppolo in the 2nd or 3rd.
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Opinion number 1486 noted. Who's next?
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I agree. I hope Mack falls to us, but I think either ATL or TB will prob take him. If he is gone,Anderson22 wrote:My wish list, I wouldn't touch teddy bridgewater or any other qb in this draft other than zach mettenburger or maybe Arron Murray late in the 3rd or 4th round, I would be jacked if the vikes ended up with both of these guys! Skol
However, Both teams have also been linked to the 2 LTs coming out as well.
One thing really working in our favor this year, is the depth at the top of this draft. There are probably 10 players or more than people feel should be top 5 picks.
I feel pretty good about being at #8 this year. Might not get the guy we covet the most, but IMHO if Mack is not there, Mosley will do a great job as well. I think he might be more what our team/scheme needs, but the highlights tape on Mack is pretty amazing as well, he can tackle, cover, and rush the QB.
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I don't know. I feel like there are exactly 8 top-10 worthy guys: Mack, Clowney, the 3 QBs, Robinson, the other tackle, and Watkins. We definitely don't need the tackles, so we could end up in an awkward position if Mack, Clowney, Watkins, and the 3 QBs are off the board, which seems very possible at this point. It's not that I wouldn't want Mosely or Gilbert, it's just that it seems like there are a bunch of top five worthy guys and then it drops off to middle 1st round type players.KSViking wrote: I agree. I hope Mack falls to us, but I think either ATL or TB will prob take him. If he is gone,
However, Both teams have also been linked to the 2 LTs coming out as well.
One thing really working in our favor this year, is the depth at the top of this draft. There are probably 10 players or more than people feel should be top 5 picks.
I feel pretty good about being at #8 this year. Might not get the guy we covet the most, but IMHO if Mack is not there, Mosley will do a great job as well. I think he might be more what our team/scheme needs, but the highlights tape on Mack is pretty amazing as well, he can tackle, cover, and rush the QB.
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We won't even need a pass rusher. I'd be very, very surprised if they let Everson Griffen walk, who is actually much more athletic, has experience in the NFL, and wouldn't cost a 1st round pick that could be used on elite talent that we actually need.
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there is not a significant drop off at all. The team drafting at 15 is probably going to get a player that would be top 10 in most other draft classes. Mack, Clowney, Robinson, Watkins, Lewan, Mosley, Barr, Gilbert, Evans, Ebron and even guys like Aaron Donald, Timmy Jernigan or either of the top 2 safeties would be legit top 10 picks in most draft classes. And that's not even mentioning the QBs, which could go either way depending how you feel about them.maembe wrote: I don't know. I feel like there are exactly 8 top-10 worthy guys: Mack, Clowney, the 3 QBs, Robinson, the other tackle, and Watkins. We definitely don't need the tackles, so we could end up in an awkward position if Mack, Clowney, Watkins, and the 3 QBs are off the board, which seems very possible at this point. It's not that I wouldn't want Mosely or Gilbert, it's just that it seems like there are a bunch of top five worthy guys and then it drops off to middle 1st round type players.
This is probably the best top end of the draft we've seen in years, and the deepest draft as well. Just compare the guys from this class to last year, most people are saying the top 3 tackles are better than the top 3 tackles that went 1, 2 & 4 last year. Mack and Clowney are better than any of the pass rushers from last year and I would take Barr over Mingo in a second. Watkins is the best WR since AJ Green and Mike Evans is not that far behind him. If given the choice between Gilbert and Milliner, it wouldn't even be a discussion, Gilbert every time. This draft class is loaded with talent

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Come on, really? On an internet message board? I could post that 7,136 times after every post you've made.Eli wrote:Opinion number 1486 noted. Who's next?

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Demi wrote: Come on, really? On an internet message board? I could post that 7,136 times after every post you've made.
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The problem is, whether Griffen walks or not is no longer really up to the Vikings, unless they tag him. It's not a question of "letting" him go. He can go to any team that wants to sign him and I suspect he'll have suitors.Slick Rick wrote:We won't even need a pass rusher. I'd be very, very surprised if they let Everson Griffen walk, who is actually much more athletic, has experience in the NFL, and wouldn't cost a 1st round pick that could be used on elite talent that we actually need.
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So much salt in this thread.
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One thing I don't get. Is that all these professional NFL analysts don't have Jared Allen anywhere on their "Best of Free Agents" available this year. But have seen Griffin on a couple of the lists. Doesn't make sense to me. I think Allen still has gas left in the tank, I think the only problem is that he was too expensive for his production last year, and that he may want to go to a team that is championship caliber this year. Not in 2-3 years from now. If I had my choice between Griffin and Allen, and the salary was equal, I would take Allen. However, if I had to choose between paying Allen 10 Mil a year and Griffin 5 Mil a year, I would choose Griffin.Mothman wrote: The problem is, whether Griffen walks or not is no longer really up to the Vikings, unless they tag him. It's not a question of "letting" him go. He can go to any team that wants to sign him and I suspect he'll have suitors.
Honestly, if Griffin wants a big pay day, I would rather grab Michael Johnson, from Cincinatti than have Griffin. I think if the Vikings really put their nose down to managing the salaries and getting rid of dead weight, we could replace alot of those guys in the draft, and make a decent splash in FA.
Cut Guion, Carlson, Rework Greenways Contract. Plus the 10 mil they added to the cap this year, should have a decent amount to sign some people.
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Age, for one. The other is that many people who have watched Allen over the past two years feel that his stats have exceeded his actual on-field impact. He goes for long periods and entire games where you forget he's even on the field.KSViking wrote:One thing I don't get. Is that all these professional NFL analysts don't have Jared Allen anywhere on their "Best of Free Agents" available this year.
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But at least he still makes the plays to compile those stats. The younger, supposedly likely to be more in demand Michael Johnson seems to have the inconsistency without the productivity.Eli wrote: Age, for one. The other is that many people who have watched Allen over the past two years feel that his stats have exceeded his actual on-field impact. He goes for long periods and entire games where you forget he's even on the field.
Allen looks to me like he could be very effective for a few more years if he was willing to accept a slightly less demanding role. He wants to be on the field for every play, which is admirable, but I think one of the reasons he sometimes disappears is that he wears down.