Draft Status

[mosscarter]

boon i actually fear that houston might go qb with all this trouble they are having with schaub this year. man would it be nice to land bridgewater.

[Delaqure]

Shaub has had too many good years for Atlanta to bail on him now. Although stranger things have happened. With the teams we are vying with for a top pick I see us at 2 or 3. Tampa is suddenly picking up and Houston or Jacksonville will win one more. I don't recall what Atlanta's schedule is like so can't comment on that. Being in this position is interesting as it causes me Rotate root for teams I may not normally root for.

[dead_poet]

Shaub has had too many good years for Atlanta to bail on him now. Although stranger things have happened. With the teams we are vying with for a top pick I see us at 2 or 3. Tampa is suddenly picking up and Houston or Jacksonville will win one more. I don't recall what Atlanta's schedule is like so can't comment on that. Being in this position is interesting as it causes me Rotate root for teams I may not normally root for.

When did Schaub get traded to Atlanta?

[Funkytown]

Why do people always forget the "draft day trade"? We don't just have to pick in front of those teams looking for a QB! Just because Atlanta isn't looking for a QB doesn't mean anything. It's still an option for them to trade out with a team who does want a QB. See how that still burns us? Bottom line: Picking sooner gives us the most control, and that is whether we want to pick or trade. As I said earlier, it's unknown how the picks are going to turn out; the only thing we can guarantee with a draft pick is how much control we have. The more control the better! That doesn't mean I want us to keep losing either though, because I don't! Just let them win!

[mmvikes]

Shaub has had too many good years for Atlanta to bail on him now. Although stranger things have happened. With the teams we are vying with for a top pick I see us at 2 or 3. Tampa is suddenly picking up and Houston or Jacksonville will win one more. I don't recall what Atlanta's schedule is like so can't comment on that. Being in this position is interesting as it causes me Rotate root for teams I may not normally root for.

Houston and Jacksonville play again in 2 weeks. Someone will win

[dead_poet]

Houston and Jacksonville play again in 2 weeks. Someone will win

You sure? (see: Vikes-Packers)

[PurpleKoolaid]

Bridgewater = RG4

Which means what?

[Demi]

Which means what?

RG3 sure hasn't been much for Skins despite all the hype coming out of college and the year he was drafted, I see this Bridgewater as the same hype.

Hype? Really? He's the #1 projected QB in the draft...and that's it. No one is saying lock #1, proven can't miss...or anything else.

Hell he isn't even the same type of QB. He rarely runs. He's a pocket passer. Unlike Manziel and Mariota who are happy feeted athlete "runners" like RG3 is. That skill set doesn't translate...see RG: The Third....

[mosscarter]

demi then who do you want?? i want manziel i don't care anymore this team needs some freaking swagger

[Demi]

Bridgewater. And Murray. Manziel won't accomplish crap in the NFL. If he even manages to not get killed. He'll end up in the CFL within a handful of years...

[PurpleKoolaid]

demi then who do you want?? i want manziel i don't care anymore this team needs some freaking swagger

No, this team need a QB, not a child, like JFB. Teddy is a good QB, nothing at all like RG3. He has a sweet arm. His play will be his swagger (if we are lucky enough to get him).

[dead_poet]

Worth the read.

Mackey analyzed each draft in the last 15 years -- since the Indianapolis Colts took Peyton Manning with the first pick -- and looked at how many of the first, second and third quarterbacks taken in each one are in Hall of Fame discussion, "serviceable to very good" or no better than a backup, in his estimation. What he found was, it's important to have the pick of the QB litter.

According to Mackey's ratings, 11 of the 15 players to be the first quarterbacks drafted have at least been serviceable to very good, with three (Peyton Manning, Eli Manning and Andrew Luck) on a Hall of Fame trajectory. That number drops to seven of 15 with the second QB overall (with just Drew Brees and Aaron Rodgers in Hall contention) and three of 15 with the third quarterback (only Ben Roethlisberger is a Hall of Fame candidate here). Essentially, Mackey says, the Vikings have a better chance not waiting around for a quarterback.

Mackey: Why each win (and tie) hurts the Vikings chances at a franchise QB

http://www.1500espn.com/sportswire/Mack ... 112513?t=2

The Vikings will almost certainly be in search of a franchise quarterback next spring. There are plenty of flaws with this team, but the lack of high-quality quarterback play is by far the biggest albatross in today's NFL. With Sunday's tie in Green Bay, the Vikings (2-8-1) currently own the No. 4 overall draft pick. Had they lost Sunday's game, the Vikings would sit at No. 2 (factoring in the strength of schedule tie-breaker).

Some might say the difference between selecting 2nd or 4th doesn't matter, because great quarterbacks have been taken in all parts of the draft - top five, late first round, second round, and even Tom Brady in the sixth round.

"It's all a crapshoot," right?

False.

I've gone through every draft in the Peyton Manning era - the era in which quarterback play has reached an entirely new level of importance due mostly to rule changes. I looked at the first four quarterbacks taken in each draft and marked them in one of the following three categories:

# = Hall of Fame discussion
* = Serviceable to very good
Blank = Backup at best

The results of this exercise are clear: Since 1998, the first quarterback off the board has a 73% chance of being at least serviceable. But that percentage drops to 47%, 20% and 7% for the second, third and fourth quarterbacks who come off the board.

Of course, some drafts are more QB-heavy than others, which certainly plays into this exercise. In 2000, for example, Tee Martin was the fourth quarterback off the board, but he wasn't selected until the fifth round. In many other drafts, the third and fourth quarterbacks off the board were still first-rounders.

But the main point is this: If the Vikings wind up with, say, the third quarterback off the board instead of the first or second, their chances of finding a gem go down. Significantly. And none of this even includes the value of a team below the Vikings trading up for, say, a defensive player and offering up additional picks.

It's likely the Jaguars (2-9), Texans (2-9), Buccaneers (3-8), Browns (4-7) and maybe others could all be sniffing around the quarterback bin in next year's draft as well.

Be careful what you root for...

[Texas Vike]

Worth the read.
Mackey: Why each win (and tie) hurts the Vikings chances at a franchise QB

http://www.1500espn.com/sportswire/Mack ... 112513?t=2

I saw this too, and came hear to post it. It substantiates what some of us have been expressing in this and other threads: of course there are no guarantees anywhere in the draft, but your percentages go up the higher you pick. Ever since I have been a fan of the Vikes (mid- to late 70s) we have not really had a franchise QB--a centerpiece of the organization. It is so overdue that I really do hope they lose out and get the best shot at THE GUY. It feels wrong to cheer against the purple (I couldn't do it against the Pack, but have vs. other teams), but the prospect of finally finding our QB is too enticing and too important.

[purplehaze]

The results of this exercise are clear: Since 1998, the first quarterback off the board has a 73% chance of being at least serviceable. But that percentage drops to 47%, 20% and 7% for the second, third and fourth quarterbacks who come off the board.

Thanks for posting that. This is exactly why I have been wanting losses since we started 1-7. Have to go with the odds in whats best for the Franchise in the long run.

[rugbyrugger23]

I won't be mad if Vikes take a QB with what I am predicting will be around 7th pick. Vikes will win a meaningless game or 2 yet.

But my ideal draft is Clowney. Feels like the year when AP fell to Vikes cause of needs and fit for teams ahead of Vikes. Via luck, AP a man among boys and drafts best pure athlete fell into their lap. Clowney is the same man child on D. And he could replace Allen, join up with Floyd and Rhodes to be future of D that needs to be fixed bad.

As for QB...draft one in 2nd or 3rd round and see who hits open market via FA. Someone like Schaub or other vet could be quality enough with AP. And hopefully that QB taken in 2nd or 3rd round isn't another Jackson.