S197 wrote:LSU did a good job of shutting down Evans, which in turn made Manziel look like Johnny Average. I really think Evans is the hidden star on that team (and possibly some guys on the line). The weather was probably a factor but Zach was still fitting balls into some really tight windows so it couldn't have been all that bad.
How cold was it? I heard them complaining about the weather at least 10 times, but I never heard them say how cold it was. Besides, if JFB can't handle the cold, better not draft him...people won't like him playing all ugly for a couple seasons...well, possibly a bit less than half of his first couple of seasons. But still, people won't tolerate it.
MelanieMFunk wrote:
How cold was it? I heard them complaining about the weather at least 10 times, but I never heard them say how cold it was. Besides, if JFB can't handle the cold, better not draft him...people won't like him playing all ugly for a couple seasons...well, possibly a bit less than half of his first couple of seasons. But still, people won't tolerate it.
Upper 30s. Not like the Gophers' game, which was played in 0 degrees windchill! It was raining and was windy in "Death Valley" particularly during the first half, which is what made passing difficult. LSU smartly ran a lot in the first half. Mettenberger had several nice downfield throws, but most importantly he was not asked to make that many (11/20 for 193 yards) (Manziel threw 41 times!). LSU had a smart, balanced game plan, especially given the conditions.
Johnny FB is a native Texan. Better equipped to deal w/ extreme heat than extreme cold. Then again, how many of the top QB prospects come from cold climates? Other food for thought: Favre was strangely successful early in his career in cold weather games, despite being a southerner.
S197 wrote:LSU did a good job of shutting down Evans, which in turn made Manziel look like Johnny Average. I really think Evans is the hidden star on that team (and possibly some guys on the line). The weather was probably a factor but Zach was still fitting balls into some really tight windows so it couldn't have been all that bad.
Which is one reason I don't want a Manziel or a Mariotta. They seem like 1 read QB's to me, which is exactly what we don't need.
MrPurplenGold wrote:I don't want a Manziel or a Mariotta. They seem like 1 read QB's to me, which is exactly what we don't need.
Agreed. It seems like "dual-threat" QBs are a two-edged sword: they can make plays with their legs, but that might be a result of them being poor at going through their progressions. Screw that. I want a guy who is accurate, quick-witted, able to read a defense and make good decisions. Arm strength and running ability are really secondary.
Is Bridgewater that guy? If not, then I'm all for trading down. If you go with a QB at the top of the draft, it better be a guy that can step in and improve the team's chances of winning. If there are any doubts, you do something else.
HornedMessiah wrote:
Agreed. It seems like "dual-threat" QBs are a two-edged sword: they can make plays with their legs, but that might be a result of them being poor at going through their progressions. Screw that. I want a guy who is accurate, quick-witted, able to read a defense and make good decisions. Arm strength and running ability are really secondary.
Is Bridgewater that guy? If not, then I'm all for trading down. If you go with a QB at the top of the draft, it better be a guy that can step in and improve the team's chances of winning. If there are any doubts, you do something else.
Yeah. That's not even close to cold. For this time of year? That's warm.
Pretty sure the Gophers and Badgers would have been ecstatic w/ that kind of tropical heat! It's all relative to what you're accustomed to. I've experienced 80 below wind chills when I lived in MN and have played sports in 115 heat here in TX. The body can acclimate both ways, but it does take time.
HornedMessiah wrote:
Agreed. It seems like "dual-threat" QBs are a two-edged sword: they can make plays with their legs, but that might be a result of them being poor at going through their progressions. Screw that. I want a guy who is accurate, quick-witted, able to read a defense and make good decisions. Arm strength and running ability are really secondary.
Is Bridgewater that guy? If not, then I'm all for trading down. If you go with a QB at the top of the draft, it better be a guy that can step in and improve the team's chances of winning. If there are any doubts, you do something else.
When are there NOT doubts about a QB prospect? Once a decade at best? Bridgewater doesn't face very good competition. That concerns me a bit.
I prefer the cold. I can't stand the heat. I'd take 0 degrees over 100 any day. If I lived in the South, pretty sure I'd be dead by now.
Moorhead, MN. Wind crossing the plains of Dakota are wicked. I used to be like you; now I prefer the heat to the cold, but 70 and sunny is always nice
Back on topic, ATL slipped "ahead" of us in the race for the top draft pick. Jax/ Hou will play once more… I'm guessing we end up w/ pick #3 or 4. We may even win one more.
Well there are three 2-9 teams now (Atlanta, Houston, and Jacksonville) so we've slipped down to the 4th pick with our meaningless tie. We hold the tie breakers vs those 3 teams so if we had lost we'd be holding the #1 pick right now.
"Our playoff loss to the Vikings in '87 was probably the most traumatic experience I had in sports." -- Bill Walsh
Reignman wrote:Well there are three 2-9 teams now (Atlanta, Houston, and Jacksonville) so we've slipped down to the 4th pick with our meaningless tie. We hold the tie breakers vs those 3 teams so if we had lost we'd be holding the #1 pick right now.
