Draft Status

[Reignman]

For those of you wondering, we would now have the 2nd pick in next years draft if the season ended right now. We hold the tie-breaker over the other three 2-8 teams in the league. Draft tie-breaker is weakest strength of schedule. Oh, and we hold the tie-breaker over Jacksonville too if they manage to win 1 more game. Our schedule gets tougher though so that'll hurt our tie-breaker status going forward.

(strength of schedule)

1. 1-9 Jacksonville (63-38)
2. 2-8 Minnesota (53-47)
3. 2-8 Atlanta (56-44)
4. 2-8 Tampa Bay (57-43)
5. 2-8 Houston (58-43)
6. 3-7 Washington (53-49)
7. 4-6 a bunch of teams

[mondry]

Awesome news! Hope we can keep it up. Tampa bay looks like they're getting stronger, Houston seems like they should be able to win a couple more, their defensive stats are still good and keenum seemed to give them a spark but they still aren't winning so I have no idea what their deal is. Atlanta seems just awful though, they can't play defense and for a while were the only team worse than us on 3rd down defense and their offensive studs can't stay healthy.

Looks like it'll be a 3 horse race between jac, min, and atl.

[PurpleHalo]

Awesome news! Hope we can keep it up. Tampa bay looks like they're getting stronger, Houston seems like they should be able to win a couple more, their defensive stats are still good and keenum seemed to give them a spark but they still aren't winning so I have no idea what their deal is. Atlanta seems just awful though, they can't play defense and for a while were the only team worse than us on 3rd down defense and their offensive studs can't stay healthy.

Looks like it'll be a 3 horse race between jac, min, and atl.

Jax is the only one I worry about, Houston can beat us out for all I care, I think they have a player in Keenum, Tampa may too in Glennon. We know Atl isn't going to draft a QB, at least not in the first round.

[Funkytown]

Jax is the only one I worry about, Houston can beat us out for all I care, I think they have a player in Keenum, Tampa may too in Glennon. We know Atl isn't going to draft a QB, at least not in the first round.

Well, yeah, but trades are a big concern. RGIII anyone? If someone wants their guy badly enough, they'll get their guy. It'll suck to get jumped or to have to trade ahead just for a spot or two in fear of losing our guy. I'm not too worried, though. The Vikings are doing a fine job at being bad enough to pick at the top.

[Delaqure]

Well, the good news is Houston and Jacksonville play each other twice in the next few weeks. So should we fail to win anymore games we ought to put some distance between us and Houston or at least pull ahead of Jacksonville. Aside from playing the Jags, Houston's schedule is fairly difficult. Jacksonville doesn't have an easy road either aside from the Houston games. Atlanta could easily lose out the remainder of the year, but do have a chance to beat the Bills or the Redskins. Tampa could also pull off another victory with a win over the Bills or the Rams, but I don't see them beating anyone else on their schedule.

So, realistically speaking our odds of picking 1 or 2 are pretty good at this point. It's a shame we are in this position, but it is what it is. I just hope Speilman is able to pick a good QB. With this teams history and with no sure thing with college QBs I will worry that we will pick the "wrong" guy. Oh well, heeeeer's hopin"

[radar55]

Even if we do end up with the #1 pick I doubt Spielman and who ever it is evaluating the talent will be on the same page. Somehow, some way they will end up picking the ONE guy that falls flat on his face and ends up being the ONLY bust in the top 5 picks. That's just the life of a Vikings fan and the way this team rolls.

[Eli]

Well, yeah, but trades are a big concern. RGIII anyone? If someone wants their guy badly enough, they'll get their guy. It'll suck to get jumped or to have to trade ahead just for a spot or two in fear of losing our guy. I'm not too worried, though. The Vikings are doing a fine job at being bad enough to pick at the top.

Actually, trades are maybe the _one_ real reason to desire a slightly higher draft position. With no clear-cut QB draft favorite for the Vikings, maybe some other team offers the Vikings a sweet deal to move up to get that guy they have their eye on and the Vikings will have an opportunity to add an extra player or two.

[Funkytown]

Actually, trades are maybe the _one_ real reason to desire a slightly higher draft position. With no clear-cut QB draft favorite for the Vikings, maybe some other team offers the Vikings a sweet deal to move up to get that guy they have their eye on and the Vikings will have an opportunity to add an extra player or two.

Yeah, but regardless, picking higher gives the Vikings a better chance of really being in control. That's what I was getting at. It just depends if the Vikings are truly sold on a guy or not. If they are, I'm sure they'll be aggressive about it. Hopefully that wouldn't mean having to trade up a spot or two in fear of someone else getting him. Hopefully they can sit back and let it play out. If they aren't sold on any specific player and are comfortable trading back a little to get a couple more picks, that would be nice, too. Either way, I'm ready to do this thing! I need something to look forward to and be excited about!

[Reignman]

Even if we do end up with the #1 pick I doubt Spielman and who ever it is evaluating the talent will be on the same page. Somehow, some way they will end up picking the ONE guy that falls flat on his face and ends up being the ONLY bust in the top 5 picks. That's just the life of a Vikings fan and the way this team rolls.

I know what you mean. That "ONE guy" IMO will be Manziel. He's the next over hyped bust waiting to happen, so it's almost a guarantee that's who we're going to take with that high pick. I know that's the guy a lot of members around here want, but seriously, his game just isn't going to work in the NFL. Mobile guys are exciting to watch but they get hurt often and they don't win championships. He also looks like the type that isn't going to handle frustration very well.

[PurpleKoolaid]

That's whats so funny about some of these posters wanting to watch their team lose. They don't even know who is going to be in the draft, or who is going to be in control of making the pick. Teddy looks good, but he doesn't look a lot better then Zach or Boyd or even Carr. Hes so frail. JFB can kiss my bum. He is about the only make that would stop me from watching games. I would rather have Ponder. Whatever we pick we get, I hope we trade it, get a project QB, and go D then guards.

[im4mnvikes]

Let me ask a hypothetical question PurpleKoolaide and there is only 1 answer, Do we want the Vikings to win out and in reward we keep the entire coaching staff and Ponder is declared the starter for next season? That's about all that will come out of 8-8 or Do the Vikings lose out, get the #1 draft pick, fire the entire coaching staff and toss Ponder to the streets? I hate when the Vikings lose and suck like they do now, I would take the 2nd choice.

So why don't we start all the young guys, it will get the losses anyway and we can see what we rally have for next year. O wait then everyone will bit@@ that the team has given up. YOU PLAY TO WIN THE GAME!!

[radar55]

So why don't we start all the young guys, it will get the losses anyway and we can see what we rally have for next year. O wait then everyone will bit@@ that the team has given up. YOU PLAY TO WIN THE GAME!!

I for one would not complain one bit if they just started the guys who actually might have a future with the team. Sit the veterans who wont be back next year and start guys like Wright and Patterson on the offense. Let the coaches work with them at practice and then LET THEM PLAY every offensive down during games. Help them to be ready next year when it might actually matter. The bottom line.....the goal is to get to the playoffs and that aint gonna happen this year so I don't really care if they win another game this year or not.

[PurpleKoolaid]

I wouldn't have a problem at all if they sat out a lot of the starters, to see what we have for next year. If your happy rooting for the Vikings to lose, like the Packers do, for some fantasy draft pick, go ahead.

[PurpleKoolaid]

I'm so glad you're not the GM

ditto

[Funkytown]

YOU PLAY TO WIN THE GAME!!

You sure do. The only thing losing does is guarantee control with draft position. Sure, picking 1st, 2nd, or 3rd would be nice. It would seem to be better, but its only advantage is draft position itself. That's not even the hard part. Getting the right player is the real challenge, and we have to do that whether we pick 1-3 or 3-6 or...wherever. I can't guarantee where we will pick or if the guy we pick will be worth the pick, but I can, however, guarantee that there will be players in the upcoming draft chosen in rounds 2-7 that will be better overall football players than some of those taken in the 1st. That's reality of the situation. So, picking really high seems all fancy and junk, but there are so many other factors that go into a player being successful in the NFL than where he is picked.