Let's pick a new coach!

[HornedMessiah]

They cancel each other out and you get a net result of eptitude, which is nearly as bad because it's not even a word.

What do you mean? It's a perfectly cromulent word

[Demi]

D sucks but we have talent.

All of which is over 30 or hurt...

[Demi]

Don Shula is the only HC or QB to win a SB with one team and win with another.

At this point, forget super bowls. No matter who we hire to replace Frazier, they aren't winning a super bowl with this talent or holding the job for long most likely.

We need a foundation. Someone who has had success to get the organization running in the right direction. Look at the coaches we've had. Denny, Tice, Childress, Frazier. We need a proven commodity to come in and show the ownership and front office how a team needs to be built. No more young first time head coaches. Parcells isn't going to win a super bowl, Gruden, Cowher...none of them. But they have been in successful organizations, and know what it takes, and can at least put us on the right track going forward.

[Mothman]

What do you mean? It's a perfectly cromulent word

[Laserman]

Speilman, Frasier, Musgrave , and the Defensive Coordinater and all assistants need to go, can't do that now. Doubt Frasier makes it through the season though

[King James]

I don't know. I think this was Frazier's call with the support of Spielman. This move was made out of desperation. I doubt Spielman will get fired though. The Wilfs probably see him as some drafting genius. Frazier would most likely get the axe first, and rightly so. He's just sitting here allowing his team to self destruct. He's not even making any changes (other than QB) to attempt to stop it. He doesn't have what it takes to be a HC.

The logical thing to do is to start a new coach under spielman and if we still are struggling, then its time to make a GM change.

[The Breeze]

Speilman, Frasier, Musgrave , and the Defensive Coordinater and all assistants need to go, can't do that now. Doubt Frasier makes it through the season though

I thought Fraiser got cancelled years ago.

[PurpleKoolaid]

You don't think Griffen has talent? And are writing Floyd and Rhodes off already after 6 games?

There's definitely is a lack of talent though.

Which is on Spielman.
Not that there isn't plenty of blame for the coaches doing such a poor job as well.

[PurpleKoolaid]

I guess it's the same as how since Ponder blows Cassel and MBT are awesome.

Holmgren is a good coach but isn't a very good GM. He's getting up there anyway. If we're going that route, I'd rather the hire Parcells.

I want Cowher but it seems more than likely we hire an up in coming coordinator or college HC like most teams are doing. I doubt they go with a retread.

I really want Cower too....some say he is outdated(not sure what that means). We got a ton of money to spend and I don't see how he couldn't right the ship that Childress tilted. I like the DC from the Browns to take over as HC if Cower wanted GM.

[dead_poet]

I really want Cower too....some say he is outdated(not sure what that means). We got a ton of money to spend and I don't see how he couldn't right the ship that Childress tilted. I like the DC from the Browns to take over as HC if Cower wanted GM.

Highly doubt Spielman is out. And I wouldn't necessarily trust Cower as a "personnel guy." Let the man play to his strengths: coaching.

"Outdated", meaning he's been a "run-first" guy. Something tells me that'd rub a lot of fans the wrong way. Same if we got Lovie to be DC and keep running the Cover-2. Cower, from a leadership standpoint, is very much a departure from Frazier. Fiery, motivational and seems to get the best out of his players. Seemingly has a knack for hiring talented coordinators, too, which is something that shouldn't be overlooked.

I'm right there with you with Ray Horton (Browns DC), though.

[PurpleKoolaid]

We HAVE to be a run first, too much invested in AD. We literally don't have a choice.
I do like the rest of you post though. Glad Horton has more support. Im sure a lot will want an OC for next HC, but D first in my book.

[dead_poet]

We HAVE to be a run first, too much invested in AD. We literally don't have a choice.
I do like the rest of you post though. Glad Horton has more support. Im sure a lot will want an OC for next HC, but D first in my book.

Re: Horton: He is a former DB, coached a Cardinals' defense that had 80 sacks and 32 interceptions over the last two seasons and has 17 years experience coaching secondaries, including three Super Bowl years in Pittsburgh (and three years with least points allowed). I like him a lot. Would have to pair him up with the right OC, though (Hue Jackson, though I doubt he'd be allowed to interview for a lateral position).

Other interesting names: Vic Fangio (49ers DC), MIke Zimmer (Bengals DC), Bill Callahan (Dallas OC), David Shaw (Stanford head coach), Kevin Sumlin (Texas A&M head coach, pair with Johnny Manziel?), Greg Roman (49ers OC), Les Miles?

[PurpleKoolaid]

I like Roman if we decide for the OC route of HC.

[mondry]

I want a guy who understands quarterbacks. One of the biggest things in this game is having an elite quarterback. Rich Gannon was on KFAN talking about how it took so long for his career to take off and he said one of the big things was none of the coaches in minnesota really instilled in him what it took to be a winning QB in the NFL. He said it wasn't until MIKE MCCARTHY, the kansas city QB's coach at the time that he really learned how much work he had to put in, what to look for in watching film, watching the first down defense, the second down defense, third down defense, the blitz reel, and studying defenses.

Now, I don't know about you guys but I find it amazing, though not surprising, that we had (have?) no one in the building that understood QB's well enough! And then to hear that he credits MIKE MCCARTHY, THE GB PACKERS HEAD COACH for his development and getting it to "click" for him in KC. Then what do you know, Aaron Rodgers, under Mccarthy, stud... coincidence? How about Flynn, throws for nearly 500 yards and 6 TD's in Mccarthy's system under his tutelage but he was still too young when he hit FA, total bust every where else.

If you look at our QB history though it makes sense. We've developed almost no one, maybe Culpepper but he did play with 2 hall of fame WR's, an incredible O-line, etc. We've always had our luck with free agent vets like Favre, Frerrote, Cunningham, Moon, etc. Imagine the franchise just doesn't have that "QB whisperer" who can get the QB to study and learn to read a defense, to go through their reads, have proper mechanics, etc. NO MATTER WHO WE TAKE THEY'LL ALWAYS BE A BUST. Bridgewater WILL bust on our team as it stands.

So I'm looking for someone who's probably an offensive coordinator now, who was a QB's coach and has had experience developing guys. I want a guy who can get the most out of a russel wilson, not someone who gets the bare minimum out of a Ponder because imo, they're not vastly different prospects, both second rounders but one is getting good coaching.

Now with that said, I also want a spread offense with 3 WR's, 1 TE, 1 QB, 1 RB as the base formation we work everything out of. This is because it's much easier to run the ball with less guys near the LoS than it is to pass the ball out of a power running formation. The goal would be to get 3 to 4 yards per carry, not as in YPC but as in, we run the ball, we get 3 yards minimum. None of this invite everyone up and run for -2 yards on most plays hoping to get AD to the second level for that 80 yard home run once in a while. Just consistent, reliable yardage out of the run game. How does it happen? With 3 WRs, that's 3 CB's in the nickel defense and if they play one on one, that's our advantage. If they leave a safety over the top guess what happens? SEVEN in the box, I know right? what the hell is seven in the box? This is the "real" benefit of AD in the passing game that we're currently failing horribly to utilize and only managed to do it ONCE in his entire career with you guessed it, Brett Favre(2009). Every defense we play, because of our condensed formations, can play 3 LB's every time we run, and nickel defense on 3rd and long plus cheating the safeties up because I'm sorry, John Carlson is not a threat to blow by anyone. On top of all that, because we have 3 WR's and a pass catching TE out there, AD becomes a much more viable threat out of the back field and they'll pretty much HAVE to put a LB on him and I don't think there are many 4.3 LB's out there that can run with him.

IT IS AN ABSOLUTE SHAME HOW WE'VE UTILIZED PETERSON. The "Let's just hope he can run through a brick wall" strategy.

For defense coordinator I think we should keep the 4-3 but ditch the zone defense of the cover 2. I want man to man coverage across the board so that means we're gonna have to really do our home work and study some guys and do what it takes to bring them in. We need coverage line backers and probably another man corner and we should always be looking to upgrade the pass rushers. Otherwise I think the defense side is pretty straight forward, someone who really knows their stuff and likes man to man coverage.

I realize it says "pick our new coach" but as I don't know who that should be yet, I thought I'd describe the perfect coaches and see if any of you know anyone who fits the bill hehe. The head coach HAS to be an offensive guy that knows QB's though. Otherwise we better trade ala Cutler cause the Lovie Smiths, the Fraziers, etc means all your QB's are going to be busts.

Do you really trust the guy who thought Freeman was ready to start with our next QB????????!!!!!!!!!

[Demi]

Highly doubt Spielman is out.

Then we're screwed for the next 3-5 years....and that's only because he'll only last 2-3 before he's finally fired.