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I have looked at a half dozen mocks

most have us taking Keenan Allen WR and the DT from North Carolina in the first round
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If we take another QB I hope it's a 6'4+ rock that can't move a lick.
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Purplemania wrote:I think if Geno Smith falls to 23, we...almost HAVE to take him. Too talented, too good of a value. Either that, or trade the pick for a ransom from a desperate team.
You're exactly right. If Geno Smith miraculously falls to 23, it would be a completely valid BPA move on the Vikings.

OTOH, they could pick up another pick if they traded out of 23 with a team that badly wanted Smith. But I think there are a lot of teams that would love to take Smith, which is why he'll be long gone by the time the 23rd pick rolls around.
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losperros wrote: You're exactly right. If Geno Smith miraculously falls to 23, it would be a completely valid BPA move on the Vikings.

OTOH, they could pick up another pick if they traded out of 23 with a team that badly wanted Smith. But I think there are a lot of teams that would love to take Smith, which is why he'll be long gone by the time the 23rd pick rolls around.
Don't be shocked if the Vikes package picks number 23 and 25 to move up high enough to take a guy that they sorely covet. They could conceivably give up 2 first rounders for a higher first rounder as well as a lower pick (I'm not sure what the going rate would be, but it would depend on how many slots they'd move up). This scenario is especially plausible if they think a quarterback is the real deal.
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Don't be shocked if the Vikes package picks number 23 and 25 to move up high enough to take a guy that they srely covet. They could conceivably give up 2 first rounders for a higher first rounder as well as a lower pick (I'm not sure what the going rate would be, but it would depend on how many slots they'd move up). This scenario is especially plausible if they think a quarterback is the real deal.
This is borderline crazy talk.

The Vikings are NOT looking for a quarterback--especially a high first rounder we have to trade multiple picks for.

We have other holes to fill, AND the Vikings believe in Ponder.

Moving around with our picks is a real possibility, but I'm almost certain the Vikings aren't going to reach a mile for anyone--especially not another quarterback. We are in a pretty good spot draft wise. No need to go all crazy putting all our eggs in one basket.

Moving up a little trading ONE of our first rounders and a later pick or two might be a solid idea to get "our guy" but we aren't giving up BOTH of our first rounders for anyone.
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This year there are not a lot pf blue chip guys in the draft I think most teams would rather move back
and collect ore picks than move up ans lose picks..

Kansas City has already announced they want to move back
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MelanieMFunk wrote: This is borderline crazy talk.

The Vikings are NOT looking for a quarterback--especially a high first rounder we have to trade multiple picks for.

We have other holes to fill, AND the Vikings believe in Ponder.

Moving around with our picks is a real possibility, but I'm almost certain the Vikings aren't going to reach a mile for anyone--especially not another quarterback. We are in a pretty good spot draft wise. No need to go all crazy putting all our eggs in one basket.

Moving up a little trading ONE of our first rounders and a later pick or two might be a solid idea to get "our guy" but we aren't giving up BOTH of our first rounders for anyone.
How do you know the Vikes aernt looking for a QB? Because they said Ponder is our man? Like they said PH isnt going anywhere? They aernt giving away any secrets they have. Maybe they past 2 years of Ponder facing single coverage and not being able to do anything with it (yeah yeah our WRs suck) has them looking at a QB. I doubt it, but i dont get invited to the meetings between the Wilfs Spielman and Fraizer. And Geno isnt the type of QB I would want to be honest. But to this point I KNOW Ponder isnt, and unlike alot here, I dont think its a sin to say that just because he wears the purple and gold. Some QBs just dont pan out.
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MelanieMFunk wrote: This is borderline crazy talk.

The Vikings are NOT looking for a quarterback--especially a high first rounder we have to trade multiple picks for.

We have other holes to fill, AND the Vikings believe in Ponder.

Moving around with our picks is a real possibility, but I'm almost certain the Vikings aren't going to reach a mile for anyone--especially not another quarterback. We are in a pretty good spot draft wise. No need to go all crazy putting all our eggs in one basket.

Moving up a little trading ONE of our first rounders and a later pick or two might be a solid idea to get "our guy" but we aren't giving up BOTH of our first rounders for anyone.
You are spot on. The Vikes are sticking with Ponder for this year and having only played for 1 1/2 seasons, the first with no camp and being injured they apparently have seen enough positives to proclaim him as the hopefull future. He led the team to a great finish and won four clutch games including the Packer game were he threw for 3 tds no ints. and a 120 QB rating.
What the team needs is to bolster the secondary, get a deep wr threat and a mlb. They need to forget about trying to sign a 37 year old hasbeen cb who thinks that he is worth 7 million dollars a year to play as a nickle/slot cb. :rofl:
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Purple bruise wrote: They need to forget about trying to sign a 37 year old hasbeen cb who thinks that he is worth 7 million dollars a year to play as a nickle/slot cb. :rofl:
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You have awoken a sleeping giant, and put in him a terrible resolve

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How do you know the Vikes aernt looking for a QB? Because they said Ponder is our man? Like they said PH isnt going anywhere? They aernt giving away any secrets they have. Maybe they past 2 years of Ponder facing single coverage and not being able to do anything with it (yeah yeah our WRs suck) has them looking at a QB. I doubt it, but i dont get invited to the meetings between the Wilfs Spielman and Fraizer. And Geno isnt the type of QB I would want to be honest. But to this point I KNOW Ponder isnt, and unlike alot here, I dont think its a sin to say that just because he wears the purple and gold. Some QBs just dont pan out.
It's just too early for the Vikes to give up on their guy. Why? Because the Vikings don't go picking up quarterbacks in the first round of the draft too often and count on them to be their "franchise quarterback." They believed in him then--and they believe in him now. Considering the circumstances, he's going to get more time to show his worth. With Ponder being the "guy" and Cassel in position to be a solid backup--QB seems foolish at this point. It seems extremely foolish when people are suggesting moving up a mile for a guy. For what? To have to endure the rookie mistakes, unknowns, what-ifs, and growing pains all over again? Why wouldn't they do that with their current number 1 draft pick from just two short seasons ago if they are willing to do that? They are already invested in Ponder. It doesn't make much sense to take the same risk yet again. If picking up a rookie quarterback high in the first round was a sure thing--we wouldn't be having this conversation right now would we? Ponder would be it, and that would be that. That is the thing: draft picks are risks. The Vikings already took that risk with Ponder--why do it again so soon? Ponder might not end up being the guy, but he deserves another year to figure it out. We have more pressing needs at the moment. The Vikes are too smart to keep setting themselves back. That is exactly what trading multiple picks for "one quarterback pick" would do--as we ignore a couple of our other needs by giving up some valuable picks. It simply doesn't add up. More importantly, the Vikings aren't going to put all their eggs in one basket for a player in a position that they already feel confident about--and addressed accordingly in the offseason. We have other things to worry about. And, I hope we address those needs first. We can address quarterback next season if need be.
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I agree but I don't think they're too keen on making Henderson their every down MLB so with several good prospects at that position available in this draft, I'm guessing they will take a shot at finding the MLB this year.
I'm not even close to being a draft-nik and I've only heard mention of the two guys at MLB (ogletree and Te'o) as being options. Sounds like those guys are just the most hyped as 1st rd picks.

I think was falling into the groupthink that says we need to grab one in the first round.

My concern is drafting a guy that you're not absolutely sure can play the position the way it needs to be played....whether it be skills and speed or character/chemistry stuff. I know they can't ever be sure when it comes to the draft. And I would wager Spielman and Studwell know a bit more than I do about it.

I think if I was going to pick one of the two top guys (assuming they're available) I would grab Ogletree and put Singletary on his butt. I don't really think he's gonna be there though.

I won't whince at all if they wait til the 2nd or 3rd round to address the position.
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Our guard situation was bad last year and even worse now. I wonder if there are any thoughts of trading up for either of the big 2 guards. I really love the idea of a solid line.
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The Breeze wrote:I'm not even close to being a draft-nik and I've only heard mention of the two guys at MLB (ogletree and Te'o) as being options. Sounds like those guys are just the most hyped as 1st rd picks.
Arthur Brown and Kevin Minter are also potential late-round first-round picks.
I think if I was going to pick one of the two top guys (assuming they're available) I would grab Ogletree and put Singletary on his butt. I don't really think he's gonna be there though.
I don't know how effective Singletary is in his role. I'm actually more comfortable with Fred Pagac.
I won't whince at all if they wait til the 2nd or 3rd round to address the position.
I probably wouldn't either, depending on who they draft in R1 and the talent dropoff. But we certainly could use a talented, three-down, long-term leader there.
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The Breeze wrote: I'm not even close to being a draft-nik and I've only heard mention of the two guys at MLB (ogletree and Te'o) as being options. Sounds like those guys are just the most hyped as 1st rd picks.

I think was falling into the groupthink that says we need to grab one in the first round.

My concern is drafting a guy that you're not absolutely sure can play the position the way it needs to be played....whether it be skills and speed or character/chemistry stuff. I know they can't ever be sure when it comes to the draft. And I would wager Spielman and Studwell know a bit more than I do about it.
Studwell certainly should since he played MLB for a long, long time in the NFL. :)
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Mothman wrote: Studwell certainly should since he played MLB for a long, long time in the NFL. :)

Indeed....and I just noticed your thread on MLBs not named Ogletree or Te'o in the draft forum. Thaswhuti'mtalkinbout.... :thumbsup:
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