So what should we do with our WR core?
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Need to supplement the draft with something in free agency. Our expectations should be that Jarius Wright will be a #3 level receiver, if he exceeds that, great. If we go into next year with only our current crop of WRs and one drafted in the first round, we will have likely have found a way to downgrade our W/Rs when we were already among the worst in the league.
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EDIT: I forgot to answer the question intially in my post. I think we need to add 3 WRs this off season. The way I see it, we could do this a few different ways:
-1 top tier WR in FA, 1 depth WR in FA, 1 WR in the draft
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-1 depth WR in FA, 2 WRs in the draft (1 first rounder, 1 mid-round)
To define "top tier WR," there's probably only 2 or 3 out there right now (Jenning, Welker, maybe Amendola?). I wouldn't be upset if we drafted more than 2 WRs this draft though. We really need some people for Ponder to throw to next year.
I don't have the time to read through everything on the board, but from what I have read, why isn't anyone talking about Wes Welker? Greg Jennings would be prefered since he can fill the role of a #1 WR, but Welker is similar to Percy. I understand that no one can replace Percy, but I have a feeling that Welker doesn't end up resigning with the Patriots. Danny Amendola could be an option too. Josh Cribbs could be signed and used as a returner in PH's absence.
Regardless of who we sign in FA (after listening to Spielmen's press conference it doesn't sound like we are too interested in FAs right now anyways), I think we'll pick up one or two WRs in the draft this year- it's just a matter of where in the draft we take them. We have a lot of needs that could be filled by our 2 first round picks other than WR. If we sign Jennings then I really don't see us picking a WR in the 1st round, but if we don't sign him then I really think it's a necessity that we do. Even if that means we end up trading both picks to move up and get the premiere WR of the draft.
-1 top tier WR in FA, 1 depth WR in FA, 1 WR in the draft
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-1 depth WR in FA, 2 WRs in the draft (1 first rounder, 1 mid-round)
To define "top tier WR," there's probably only 2 or 3 out there right now (Jenning, Welker, maybe Amendola?). I wouldn't be upset if we drafted more than 2 WRs this draft though. We really need some people for Ponder to throw to next year.
I don't have the time to read through everything on the board, but from what I have read, why isn't anyone talking about Wes Welker? Greg Jennings would be prefered since he can fill the role of a #1 WR, but Welker is similar to Percy. I understand that no one can replace Percy, but I have a feeling that Welker doesn't end up resigning with the Patriots. Danny Amendola could be an option too. Josh Cribbs could be signed and used as a returner in PH's absence.
Regardless of who we sign in FA (after listening to Spielmen's press conference it doesn't sound like we are too interested in FAs right now anyways), I think we'll pick up one or two WRs in the draft this year- it's just a matter of where in the draft we take them. We have a lot of needs that could be filled by our 2 first round picks other than WR. If we sign Jennings then I really don't see us picking a WR in the 1st round, but if we don't sign him then I really think it's a necessity that we do. Even if that means we end up trading both picks to move up and get the premiere WR of the draft.
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True, I agree he doesn't help the future of this team all that much. He has been somewhat of a product of that team's system, but you gotta give the guy credit for so many 100+ catch seasons. The guy knows how to get open, and we do need some sort of veteran at the WR position. Welker could help Wright's progression a ton, but maybe you're right and he wouldn't be worth the $$$ it would take to sign him.mrc44 wrote: Becuase he is old and he is a product of Brady and Coach. Welker is not what this team needs. We need young WR's that can grow with Ponder. The only big name WR we should be considering is Victor Cruz, 26 yrs old, mature, injury free, and an amazing WR.
Cruz wouldn't be worth what we would have to give up to get him IMO.
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Spielman doesnt know what a good FA is, esp. a WR or QB. There we build through the draft, just like every other posistion. I guess the plan is to save the Wilfs some cash and to have the youngest team ever in the NFL. And overpay an injury prone TE so much we have to keep him 2 years, and then let the best cover 2 CB ever to play, walk.
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Are you going to say this in every thread?PurpleKoolaid wrote:Spielman doesnt know what a good FA is, esp. a WR or QB. There we build through the draft, just like every other posistion. I guess the plan is to save the Wilfs some cash and to have the youngest team ever in the NFL. And overpay an injury prone TE so much we have to keep him 2 years, and then let the best cover 2 CB ever to play, walk.
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If people ask what we should do about our WR situation, yes. Why, what would you say?TheCoolerOne wrote: Are you going to say this in every thread?
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Well Winfield has nothing to do with the Wide Receiver situation, so I wouldn't say that. The Packers have one of the deepest receiving corps in the NFL, hence their decision to let Jennings walk without as much as a how-do-you-do. How did it get to be that way, you wonder? Through the draft. Jennings, Cobb, Nelson, Crabtree, Finely, Jones, not one of these guys was a top FA in any year, rather a 2nd or lower draft pick in the past few years.PurpleKoolaid wrote: If people ask what we should do about our WR situation, yes. Why, what would you say?
I'm not sure how long ago it was, but the year we went balls to the wall and signed all kinds of hot free agents (Smoot, P. Williams, Taylor, etc.,) didn't exactly pan out as a memorable season, suggested by the fact I can't even remember what year that was.
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Pittsburgh, New England (especially) and Green Bay sign FAs all the time. Not too many big money signings, which is to their credit. Pittsburgh is so strapped against the cap right now that they can't afford to sign a good long snapper.80 PurplePride 84 wrote:People getting way too caught up in the FA frenzy. We need to get some guys (specifically WR, maybe CB now) but you don't over pay or sign aging players either. That's how you become the Redskins.
How many FAs do teams like PIT, NE and GB sign? Build through the draft supplement through FA.
Would I have loved to sign Wallace? Yes. Would I have gave him the deal he got? Probably but not a penny more. And it seems that him and Miami were destined for each other all along.
You warn about overpaying and then say you'd have given Wallace $13M per year? Sorry, but that makes no sense to me.
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I'm in the Greg Jennings camp.
I know he's going to be 30, and he had some injury issues last year. But I'm still there, based on 3 positives.
1) Precise route running, something the Vikings have sorely lacked.
2) Yards after catch. Jennings is among the leaders. That plays into Ponder's strengths.
3) Veteran leadership. This guy knows how to play the position, and he understands offense. I see him as a Winfield type leader, but on the offensive side of the ball. I believe he would be a tremendously positive influence on the receivers we already have, any receivers we draft, and (most importantly) Christian Ponder.
BONUS: He knows Green Bay's offense. Can't hurt.
At 30, I have to believe he still has 2-3 good years left. He's in the good-but-not-great-speed category, so it's all about staying healthy.
I know he's going to be 30, and he had some injury issues last year. But I'm still there, based on 3 positives.
1) Precise route running, something the Vikings have sorely lacked.
2) Yards after catch. Jennings is among the leaders. That plays into Ponder's strengths.
3) Veteran leadership. This guy knows how to play the position, and he understands offense. I see him as a Winfield type leader, but on the offensive side of the ball. I believe he would be a tremendously positive influence on the receivers we already have, any receivers we draft, and (most importantly) Christian Ponder.
BONUS: He knows Green Bay's offense. Can't hurt.
At 30, I have to believe he still has 2-3 good years left. He's in the good-but-not-great-speed category, so it's all about staying healthy.

Go ahead. I dare you.
Underestimate this man.
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I'm on the Jennings camp too. Bad news is the Packers are reportedly considering resigning him. In fact, word is he could be back there as soon as Midnight if he doesn't sign somewhere else. Kind of odd, the same thing happened with James Jones last year 


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I'm in the build through draft and supplement through the free agency camp.J. Kapp 11 wrote:I'm in the Greg Jennings camp.
I know he's going to be 30, and he had some injury issues last year. But I'm still there, based on 3 positives.
1) Precise route running, something the Vikings have sorely lacked.
2) Yards after catch. Jennings is among the leaders. That plays into Ponder's strengths.
3) Veteran leadership. This guy knows how to play the position, and he understands offense. I see him as a Winfield type leader, but on the offensive side of the ball. I believe he would be a tremendously positive influence on the receivers we already have, any receivers we draft, and (most importantly) Christian Ponder.
BONUS: He knows Green Bay's offense. Can't hurt.
At 30, I have to believe he still has 2-3 good years left. He's in the good-but-not-great-speed category, so it's all about staying healthy.
Jennings is supplemental help - period. Sign him if they must, but I don't think he is or will be the WR he once was. He adds some quality to the WR corps but he won't save it or be the future of it.
So I'm still for drafting a WR in R1 and another WR by R3.
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Exactly! Now isn't the time to be overpaying great great grandfathers for mediocre play while stunting the growth of any young guys and eating up cap space!I'd be fine with Jennings but I wouldn't give him more than 9m over 3 years.