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Demi wrote:http://www.startribune.com/politics/sta ... 27285.html
Just remember, if the republicans had their way, there wouldn't be a Minnesota Vikings team much longer!
The vote is right there.PsyDanny wrote:
Julie Rosen is a Republican, and there were many Republicans such as myself, calling and emailing representatives. So, please, let's not go there.
i heard Zygi in the past saying football should be played in the elements .Eli wrote: IF they don't? What's up with all this discussion about a roofless stadium? They're NOT building an outdoor stadium. The new stadium will have a roof. It may have a retractable roof if Zygi is willing to pay for it.
You're crossing the politics line here. Drop it.Demi wrote:So even with the occasional level headed politician, and constituents calling, there likely would not be any Minnesota Vikings past next season if the Republican politicians who were elected had their way. Much less if there had been a Republican governor!
I thought the same thing. I just think a lot of the supporters didn't speak, or didn't speak for very long. And some that eventually voted yes spent the majority of their time killing the bill (Winkler, Goodwin etc.)VikingLord wrote:I was surprised by the margin of the final votes in both chambers. Going into it the leaders of both chambers were saying they weren't sure they had enough votes to get it through, and while the debates were lively enough and suggested a lot of overall opposition, in the end it wasn't all that close.
glg wrote: You're crossing the politics line here. Drop it.
Jeff Goldberg @ jgoldbergfox9 Mpls council member Sandy Colvin Roy @ Vikes bill signing, confirms it will pass city council on 5/25: "this is a good deal for Mpls"
I would call this pretty much as bipartisan as a vote could go. Just remember that some didn't vote for it because they didn't agree with how it was being funded, on both sides. I'm sure no one wanted the Vikings to move. As messy as it is and as much posturing as there was, this IS how it is supposed to work. In the end, enough voted for it, from both sides, and it is DONE. THANK GOD!!!!Demi wrote: The vote is right there.
Dem 38-21 in the house
Rep 33-39 in the house
Dem 21-22 in the senate
Rep 15-22 in the senate
So even with the occasional level headed politician, and constituents calling, there likely would not be any Minnesota Vikings past next season if the Republican politicians who were elected had their way. Much less if there had been a Republican governor!
Let it go. It was a nice win for us Vikings fans. Every legitimate poll that was done said Minnesotans were resoundingly opposed to public funding for the stadium. That's why the referendum is feared.Vikingsfan4321 wrote:
While I agree and respect your hardline on no politics. I think is is important to remember ALL the politicians (on both sides) who worked for it and the ones that didn't. I think it is really important to notice that the ones who didn't want this to pass are COMPLETELY out of touch with what Minnesotan's want. They (again any on both sides) took their election to mean a blank check to vote their opinion, not to represent their district. Everyone needs to remember this in the election and even if you have friends that don't care about football. Point this out to them as an example of the Politicians try to IGNORE the majority.
IMO the vikings are like that fishing boat you have out back that's all dinged up. Its not flashy, its not that special, you never caught the big one in it *ahem*.... but you really enjoy the time you have spent in it. Even if you are in debt up to your eye balls that boat is probably one of the last things you let go. Because no matter how often you need to bail it out or how bad it smells, Its still way better than no boat at all
That's a big reason why the pols were scared of it. I don't think one of those polls was ever phrased as "and if you say no, the team moves to Los Angeles". A lot of people out there are simply ignorant about that part of it. We even saw it from some opponents in the final debates. "where would they go?". LA, dummies, LA. While the NFL would rather keep a team in MSP as opposed to some much smaller markets that are troubled (like Jacksonville and Buffalo), without a new stadium, it wasn't going to work. Problem is, there are a lot of people who just don't believe a move could happen and think that the LA threat is hot air and that shows up in those polls.CalVike wrote:Every legitimate poll that was done said Minnesotans were resoundingly opposed to public funding for the stadium. That's why the referendum is feared.
You are dead on. They would have moved them. Look no further than LA itself. They let both teams move in 1995 when the state and locals said no public money. It is taking private, non-NFL money to bring LA back. The NFL recognizes the golden goose, they got $498M for construction and Mpls money for ops. They were not going to set any precedent diminishing their handout to billionaires approach. Minnesota was wise to get it done now.glg wrote: That's a big reason why the pols were scared of it. I don't think one of those polls was ever phrased as "and if you say no, the team moves to Los Angeles". A lot of people out there are simply ignorant about that part of it. We even saw it from some opponents in the final debates. "where would they go?". LA, dummies, LA. While the NFL would rather keep a team in MSP as opposed to some much smaller markets that are troubled (like Jacksonville and Buffalo), without a new stadium, it wasn't going to work. Problem is, there are a lot of people who just don't believe a move could happen and think that the LA threat is hot air and that shows up in those polls.
However, those same pols would get the blame if the team left for not doing anything about it. So, they were petrified. Vote yes, maybe lose for "giving tax dollars to a billionaire". Vote no, maybe lose for "not doing anything to keep the Vikings".
And to think, they could have done it 10 years ago for a lot less.Valhalla wrote:Almost a billion dollar cash layout. That's a lot.
The council's Budget and Ways and Means Committee spent more than two hours Monday afternoon dissecting a staff report on stadium financing.
No official vote was taken, but a final decision on the stadium package will be made by a committee of the whole Thursday.
That vote will be formalized during the full city council meeting Friday.
Seven members of the 13-seat council have signaled their support for the stadium plan.
The council remains the last significant hurdle to the $975 million, 65,000-seat stadium that would be built at the Metrodome site by the 2016 season. While the Vikings would contribute $477 million to the project and the state would chip in $348 million, an additional $150 million would come from Minneapolis taxes.
sigh. . hurry up and wait....by the 2016 season.
