dead_poet wrote:I'm still curious to learn what Zygi's commitment will be if forced into this.
Well, I think you can shave $67 million right off the top.
Ultimately, any money lost - in lost gate revenue, upgrade costs for TCF, operating expenses, and even long-term real estate earnings expected from Arden Hills - are going to be paid by Minnesota taxpayers.
I wonder if the league tries to talk the Wilfs into signing a year extension on the Dome in the hope that Arden Hills or another site can become more feasible next year.
HornedMessiah wrote:I wonder if the league tries to talk the Wilfs into signing a year extension on the Dome in the hope that Arden Hills or another site can become more feasible next year.
Man, I am really staring to see where this is going. Persuaded into a one year feel good lease, then the same #### will happen next year. Just move the team, I feel that is what is going to happen in the end. The short sightedness is unbelievable.
A Randy Moss fan for life. A Kevin Williams fan for life.
No team has ever played three seasons at an alternative venue since the Super Bowl era began in 1966.
I don't see why the hell it would take 3 seasons. Bears did it in 1. Get the deal done now, take the rest of the year to get everything set, then start the day after the season is over. NFL can even "help" by giving a couple away games at the end of the season (of course, if that gets done, the Vikes will end up winning the division and getting a home game). If that's done, I don't see why it would require 3 seasons in TCF.
glg wrote:
I don't see why the hell it would take 3 seasons. Bears did it in 1.
They're not going to do it in one season (that would be about 19 months for demolition and construction), but you're right. You'd think it could be done in two. From the end of the 2012 season (Jan 2013) until the beginning of the 2015 season (Aug 2015) would be 31 months in which to get it done, and they'd miss only two seasons.
HornedMessiah wrote:
I think it was just Soldier Field renovations that displaced the Bears, not a new stadium being built.
Soldier was not simple renovations. In some ways, what they did at Soldier may have been harder, because they built a new stadium while maintaining the colonnades/facade on the exterior.
glg wrote:
Soldier was not simple renovations. In some ways, what they did at Soldier may have been harder, because they built a new stadium while maintaining the colonnades/facade on the exterior.
They didn't have to tear down their entire stadium, ensure all the proper infrastructure was in place, and build an entirely new facility like the Vikes would have to do.
"The bravest are surely those who have the clearest vision of what is before them, glory and danger alike, and yet notwithstanding, go out to meet it." ~Thucydides
glg wrote:
Soldier was not simple renovations. In some ways, what they did at Soldier may have been harder, because they built a new stadium while maintaining the colonnades/facade on the exterior.
i was actually thinking the same thing, but maybe the dome aspect makes it a lot harder? i mean they can't be lying about it to us...
Lawmakers locked in electronic pull-tabs Monday night as the funding source they'll propose for a new Minnesota Vikings stadium, but they said they're still awaiting more information from Minneapolis and Ramsey County officials before settling on a site.
Some clarity, finally, from the State legislature on what mechanism they will propose to fund the State portion of the cost. Gambling and electronic pull-tabs. A small step forward.
thatguy wrote:
They didn't have to tear down their entire stadium, ensure all the proper infrastructure was in place, and build an entirely new facility like the Vikes would have to do.
YES THEY DID! Again, Soldier was not renovated. They basically built a new stadium within the existing facade (which, BTW, they had to be very careful about not destroying in the process).
glg wrote:YES THEY DID! Again, Soldier was not renovated. They basically built a new stadium within the existing facade (which, BTW, they had to be very careful about not destroying in the process).
glg wrote:
YES THEY DID! Again, Soldier was not renovated. They basically built a new stadium within the existing facade (which, BTW, they had to be very careful about not destroying in the process).
I understand that. But with the Dome site, don't you have to account for the time of destroying the whole thing, cleaning it up, etc. etc.?
"The bravest are surely those who have the clearest vision of what is before them, glory and danger alike, and yet notwithstanding, go out to meet it." ~Thucydides