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Leslie Frazier
Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2022 10:51 pm
by 4mnvikes1982
He may not have been a great head coach but Leslie Frazier's Buffalo Bill defense looks tough
Re: Leslie Frazier
Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2022 11:37 pm
by Mothman
4mnvikes1982 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 10:51 pm
He may not have been a great head coach but Leslie Frazier's Buffalo Bill defense looks tough
It does!
I don't think Frazier ever had true support from management when HC in Minnesota. He took over a team with cap and personnel problems, was handed a rookie QB with limited ability and after squeezing a winning season and wildcard appearance out of the team in 2012 (with a LOT of help from Adrian Peterson) his reward was a lame duck season because Spielman wanted to hire his own head coach.
It's possible Frazier could have received the 8 years of commitment and support Zimmer did and he might not have done any better than he did from 2011-2013 but he wasn't really put in a position to succeed. He was a bridge from Childress to Zimmer and that's pretty much how he was treated.
Anyway, it's nice to see him having success as Bills defensive coordinator.
Re: Leslie Frazier
Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2022 11:51 pm
by 4mnvikes1982
Mothman wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 11:37 pm
4mnvikes1982 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 10:51 pm
He may not have been a great head coach but Leslie Frazier's Buffalo Bill defense looks tough
It does!
I don't think Frazier ever had true support from management when HC in Minnesota. He took over a team with cap and personnel problems, was handed a rookie QB with limited ability and after squeezing a winning season and wildcard appearance out of the team in 2012 (with a LOT of help from Adrian Peterson) his reward was a lame duck season because Spielman wanted to hire his own head coach.
It's possible Frazier could have received the 8 years of commitment and support Zimmer did and he might not have done any better than he did from 2011-2013 but he wasn't really put in a position to succeed. He was a bridge from Childress to Zimmer and that's pretty much how he was treated.
Anyway, it's nice to see him having success as Bills defensive coordinator.
That's a great take on the situation.
Re: Leslie Frazier
Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2022 12:04 am
by Mothman
4mnvikes1982 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 11:51 pm
That's a great take on the situation.
Thank you!
Re: Leslie Frazier
Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2022 12:48 am
by StpViking
I realize this section is only meant for the Vikings, but WOW, how about those Bills. If the Vikings can't lift their curse. I hope the Bills can. A franchise that is well deserving of it too.
Watching Josh Allen, the entire game I was thinking, how can anyone ever stop this guy?
Apologizes for taking this off topic, just a jilted Vikings fan dreaming about what could be.
Re: Leslie Frazier
Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2022 12:57 am
by 808vikingsfan
StpViking wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 12:48 am
I realize this section is only meant for the Vikings, but WOW, how about those Bills. If the Vikings can't lift their curse. I hope the Bills can. A franchise that is well deserving of it too.
Watching Josh Allen, the entire game I was thinking, how can anyone ever stop this guy?
Apologizes for taking this off topic, just a jilted Vikings fan dreaming about what could be.
Happy for Diggs. Hope they make it to the SB.
Re: Leslie Frazier
Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2022 8:29 am
by Mothman
StpViking wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 12:48 am
I realize this section is only meant for the Vikings, but WOW, how about those Bills. If the Vikings can't lift their curse. I hope the Bills can. A franchise that is well deserving of it too.
Watching Josh Allen, the entire game I was thinking, how can anyone ever stop this guy?
Apologizes for taking this off topic, just a jilted Vikings fan dreaming about what could be.
I'm with you. It would be nice to see the Bills win it all.