Well, No Vikings in playoffs, so who you think now? Who advances to Super Bowl?
Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2019 2:45 pm
I think Pats vs Colts
And Bears vs Seahawks.
Patriots over Seahawks
And Bears vs Seahawks.
Patriots over Seahawks
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You need to think more globally. LA is a major market.Goodell is just a figurehead and does what the owners tell him.PurpleMustReign wrote: ↑Sat Jan 05, 2019 3:05 pm I still think LA vs LA. That's what Goodell wants because of his inane belief that large market= more money.
With all the seemingly scripted storyline of this season and the fact that ratings are down and national anthem crap, this is what he wants.
I'm definitely among the fans who think the Vikings blew that game. I don't believe the NFL engineered a Saints win. The Vikings turned the ball over 5 or 6 times in that game and that's almost never winning football.Bowhunting Viking wrote: ↑Sat Jan 05, 2019 4:07 pm Personally if an AFC team has to win the SB I want it to be the Texans. NFC I hope its Rams . NFC wise I absolutely hate these teams in this order 1. Saints 1b. Cowgirls 1c. Seachickens. I really wish Brees played didn't play for N.O. because I respect the man so much, and I really hate to root against him. But I detest N.O. more than any team in the league because of the 08-09 Championship game.
I know that Favre blew it at end of the game by throwing the Int across his body when he could have ran the ball, but without the absolute horrible and blatant multiple bad calls against us by Morelli and his crew, we should not have been in the position to have lost anyhow.
I know some may not agree and feel we blew the game ourselves, but I remember vividly the amount of horrible calls , not to mention the whole Greg William's led Bountygate maiming of Favre, that I will go to my grave knowing that we were the victims of the NFL wanting the Saints in the SB.
Thanks for the kind words. Most Vikes fans see that one differently than I do. I'm just rarely inclined to blame a loss on bad officiating, especially a loss in which a team makes as many mistakes as the Vikes did.Bowhunting Viking wrote: ↑Sun Jan 06, 2019 7:59 am I respect your post and insight here so much. Let me reiterate a bit. I don't mean to imply the NFL offices instructed the officiating crew to fix the game per se. But there are instances that I myself , believe that the league, shall we say, would prefer a team to win. Talk to any old Seahawks fan, go back and watch Holgrem's speech to the fans, after their SB loss to the Steelers. It just seemed obvious that the Steelers were getting the more favorable calls .
The Saints were the feel good story that season because of the awful devastation of Katrina. Yes we had turnovers and made some mistakes, there were no doubt so many controversial calls , no calls , ball spots etc that helped keep Saints drives alive etc that truly impacted the game.
I've heard Ben Leber talk post career about the PI call on him that negated a 3rd down stop at the end of the game that resulted in score by the Saints, instead of a punt. The receiver tripped and Leber was at least 3 yrds behind him.
I guess the validation for my belief was confirmed when I was watching the NFL Network once, and they were talking about that game, and Rich Eisen referred to it as "The Game of the Ghost Calls against Minnesota "
So Mothman this will just be one of those times where we each see it a different way. No hard feelings my friend. Like I said , I love your posts, your insights and the wisdom you bring to the board.
We just feel differently about this one.
I see it the same way you do Jim, however I am not willing to give the officials as much of a pass as you are. There were three or more blatant calls that were wrong toward the end of the game, and It irritates me that it happened. The 4th down conversion is the one that sticks out most to me. When they showed the replay I told my mom we were getting the ball back. For the life of me I don't understand the call.Mothman wrote: ↑Sun Jan 06, 2019 8:17 amThanks for the kind words. Most Vikes fans see that one differently than I do. I'm just rarely inclined to blame a loss on bad officiating, especially a loss in which a team makes as many mistakes as the Vikes did.Bowhunting Viking wrote: ↑Sun Jan 06, 2019 7:59 am I respect your post and insight here so much. Let me reiterate a bit. I don't mean to imply the NFL offices instructed the officiating crew to fix the game per se. But there are instances that I myself , believe that the league, shall we say, would prefer a team to win. Talk to any old Seahawks fan, go back and watch Holgrem's speech to the fans, after their SB loss to the Steelers. It just seemed obvious that the Steelers were getting the more favorable calls .
The Saints were the feel good story that season because of the awful devastation of Katrina. Yes we had turnovers and made some mistakes, there were no doubt so many controversial calls , no calls , ball spots etc that helped keep Saints drives alive etc that truly impacted the game.
I've heard Ben Leber talk post career about the PI call on him that negated a 3rd down stop at the end of the game that resulted in score by the Saints, instead of a punt. The receiver tripped and Leber was at least 3 yrds behind him.
I guess the validation for my belief was confirmed when I was watching the NFL Network once, and they were talking about that game, and Rich Eisen referred to it as "The Game of the Ghost Calls against Minnesota "
So Mothman this will just be one of those times where we each see it a different way. No hard feelings my friend. Like I said , I love your posts, your insights and the wisdom you bring to the board.
We just feel differently about this one.
It's been a long time... are you referring to a short yardage play in OT? I remember thinking that was clearly a stop too.PurpleMustReign wrote: ↑Sun Jan 06, 2019 3:46 pmI see it the same way you do Jim, however I am not willing to give the officials as much of a pass as you are. There were three or more blatant calls that were wrong toward the end of the game, and It irritates me that it happened. The 4th down conversion is the one that sticks out most to me. When they showed the replay I told my mom we were getting the ball back. For the life of me I don't understand the call.
That's just it. They had so much going for them that day and if they had just done a better job of securing the football, they probably would have won handily.But, in reality, of the vikings have one fewer turnover they likely win that game.
Yes the one in OT. They not only stopped him at least a foot short, he fumbled the ball and then recovered a yard back.Mothman wrote: ↑Sun Jan 06, 2019 4:32 pmIt's been a long time... are you referring to a short yardage play in OT? I remember thinking that was clearly a stop too.PurpleMustReign wrote: ↑Sun Jan 06, 2019 3:46 pmI see it the same way you do Jim, however I am not willing to give the officials as much of a pass as you are. There were three or more blatant calls that were wrong toward the end of the game, and It irritates me that it happened. The 4th down conversion is the one that sticks out most to me. When they showed the replay I told my mom we were getting the ball back. For the life of me I don't understand the call.
That's just it. They had so much going for them that day and if they had just done a better job of securing the football, they probably would have won handily.But, in reality, of the vikings have one fewer turnover they likely win that game.
Another "Pearson pushed" moment for the Vikes.PurpleMustReign wrote: ↑Sun Jan 06, 2019 5:43 pmYes the one in OT. They not only stopped him at least a foot short, he fumbled the ball and then recovered a yard back.
They even reviewed the play. What a joke.Mothman wrote: ↑Sun Jan 06, 2019 6:10 pmAnother "Pearson pushed" moment for the Vikes.PurpleMustReign wrote: ↑Sun Jan 06, 2019 5:43 pmYes the one in OT. They not only stopped him at least a foot short, he fumbled the ball and then recovered a yard back.![]()