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Re: Adrian Peterson Indicted for Child Abuse

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2014 7:17 pm
by yezzir
Valhalla wrote:For me, I still remember, innocent until proven guilty, AD, everyone here has that right to a trial though I also wouldn't to see one get exonerated on this just because they might have endless funds for a lawyer.
He's admitted to doing it.

Re: Adrian Peterson Indicted for Child Abuse

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2014 7:20 pm
by yezzir
Hunter Morrow wrote: Adrian's career?

GREAT South Park reference, but I disagree.

He'll be playing again this season.

Re: Adrian Peterson Indicted for Child Abuse

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2014 7:21 pm
by Raptorman
yezzir wrote: He's admitted to doing it.
To the grand jury. They can't use that in court. They would have to get him on the stand, and no attorney would allow him to do that. What they have to convict him is this. His text to the baby momma and the pictures. I suspect a plea deal that includes anger management and a suspension from the NFL.

Re: Adrian Peterson Indicted for Child Abuse

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2014 7:27 pm
by vikingsfaninco
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency ... 002015.htm

He has admitted to doing it. That is clear. A 4 year old has no concept of moral right and wrong. Punishing them with a stick is not going to help their future development. To me, that is abuse.

It appears his intent was not to injure, but that does not excuse the action.

As a fan, I wish this story was not true but it is.

In this day and age of ps4, xbox, tv and internet, there are better ways for a child to be punished that wont send them to the doctors office. Just because our parents did it to us, does not make it right..that is an excuse to carry on a tradition of being ignorant in my opinion.

Re: Adrian Peterson Indicted for Child Abuse

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2014 7:33 pm
by ATL_Viking
So, in 09, the wife and I made an order at the nfl shop for two jerseys. For her, a born & raised Baltimoron, a Ray Rice jersey. For me, Adrian Peterson. At the time, it seemed like a safe bet...

This year, we got Torrey Smith and Teddy Bridgewater. This doesn't bode well.

Re: Adrian Peterson Indicted for Child Abuse

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2014 7:46 pm
by S197
DanAS wrote:It's time for the off-the-field violence on the part of NFL football players to end. Those who say that a certain kind of conduct was OK 50 years ago are making an irrelevant point. Slavery was legal 200 years ago. Is that an excuse for someone perpetrating acts that according to contemporary standards constitute domestic abuse? No. Full stop.
After going through the whole thread, this is the sentiment I agree with most. Should we also go back to child labor days and put our kids back in the coal mines? Just because something was "okay" at some point, doesn't mean that should last into perpetuity.

Everyone has a story, heck teachers used to hit kids with rulers, but they don't anymore. If the pictures, the texts, the age of the child, all of that is confirmed, it's yet another truly sad day in this franchise's history.

Re: Adrian Peterson Indicted for Child Abuse

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2014 7:46 pm
by Raptorman
ATL_Viking wrote:So, in 09, the wife and I made an order at the nfl shop for two jerseys. For her, a born & raised Baltimoron, a Ray Rice jersey. For me, Adrian Peterson. At the time, it seemed like a safe bet...

This year, we got Torrey Smith and Teddy Bridgewater. This doesn't bode well.
Send em back. You need to get an Aaron Rodgers and Jay Cutler jerseys.

Re: Adrian Peterson Indicted for Child Abuse

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2014 7:53 pm
by Raptorman
My father had a 12 in L shaped scar on his back. I never asked him were it came from because I figured it came from his combat time in Korea. How wrong I was. My mother finally told me. It came from his father hitting him with a 2x4 when he was 13. Only later in life did I find out that my grandfather used to beat the crap out of my father and his brothers. I won't mention what he did to my Aunts. Only to say if there is a hell, he is there. That is one thing he did not pass on to me. And I had the chance to let him know how grateful I was before he passed away.

We punish how we were punished for the most part. What AP did was over the top in just about everyone's book today. But it happens more often then most people think.

Re: Adrian Peterson Indicted for Child Abuse

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2014 7:54 pm
by PacificNorseWest
fiestavike wrote: I don't think there is much of an argument that things are better now that they can't, is there?
I don't know. Depends on the who the teacher is...

Re: Adrian Peterson Indicted for Child Abuse

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2014 8:04 pm
by Orion
The gods don't want us to win a super bowl.

Re: Adrian Peterson Indicted for Child Abuse

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2014 8:07 pm
by Orion
ibleedPurple wrote:So you cant discipline your child anymore? If this was so bad why did they throw it out the first time. I am so sick of people jumping to conclusions just let things play out.

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Nope and you can get arrested for letting your kid go to the park alone.

Re: Adrian Peterson Indicted for Child Abuse

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2014 8:07 pm
by PacificNorseWest

Of course it does, but that answer yields no possibility of wisdom. Generally speaking are we better off because teachers cannot discipline students? I don't think thats a strong argument.
I was thinking more in lines of the naughty teacher variety, if ya know what I mean. My attempt to ligthen the mood failed. :lol:

Re: Adrian Peterson Indicted for Child Abuse

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2014 8:12 pm
by mondry
Well Peterson's completely boned, I don't know how harsh the league will be but 6 games minimum due to their new policy for domestic violence seems guaranteed at this point. I have no doubt that Peterson's intent was not to hurt the child, but to "discipline" him. But what is discipline? To me, you give the kid a couple spankings on the fleshy part of the butt cheek so there's no damage done, it stings a bit, and they learn their lesson / go on their way. Especially for a FOUR YEAR OLD kid.

Unfortunately I don't see this as discipline, when you're essentially whipping / lashing a 4 year old kid you've crossed the line. The lacerations on the kids legs and Peterson himself even admitting to hitting him in the balls and not realizing the whip was doing more damage than he thought with it wrapping around the kids leg and damaging the other side as well though unintentional or an "accident" doesn't mean it's okay.

I have no problem with people wanting to physically discipline their kids in the manner I described, a spank or two, heck I'd probably discipline my kids that way if I had any. However if you're doing enough damage where the mother has to take them to the doctor to be looked at you're doing it wrong...

Re: Adrian Peterson Indicted for Child Abuse

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2014 8:21 pm
by ranskal
I am sickened and disappointed like many others on here.

My opinion is I think the Vikings need to suspend him pending investigation, and if he is found guilty, they need to cut him. If he felt he needed to "whoop" his 4 year old child with a "switch", he needs help. The kid was 4 years old for God's sake. I grew up when spanking was normal and to this day, I don't have a problem with it. This wasn't spanking.

I am hoping for the best but this doesn't look like it will end well...especially with all the issues the NFL is having with abuse.

Re: Adrian Peterson Indicted for Child Abuse

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2014 8:27 pm
by BGM
Adrian Peterson is a world class athlete, and, judging solely by his on-field performance and physical fitness level, he has elite strength. The idea that anyone would think that it is acceptable for someone that strong to strike a four-year-old to the extent that it leaves cuts is stomach churning. For all of you who grind the old axe that "I was hit when I was a kid, and I am just fine", I am fairly certain that none of you were struck by someone with the strength of Adrian Peterson.

My heart is just sick about this because Adrian Peterson has been one of my favorite players, period. I can accept the fact that as a human being, he has faults. But this... this is a deal breaker. I will always appreciate what Peterson did for the team and for the game, but I cannot support him knowing that he caused injury to his son. I have close personal experience with physical abuse and, while he may have not intended to hurt his child, his lack of judgement about the appropriate extent of punishment cannot be ignored.

I don't hate AD, I do not think he is a monster, or a bum, or a loser. I just don't want to have to cheer for him any more.