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So...when finished with charting, Tom Savage comes out as the worst projected QB in my aggregate score among all 11 players I've looked at

John_Viveiros wrote:As I'm thinking about it now, I don't want any QB at #8 - at least, not any of this group. The pay is too high, the pressure to play them is too much, the risk of a wasted high pick is too much. Although no player is a sure thing, the risk many of the other players is a lot less - and for me, Spielman has shown that he can be trusted with first round picks. Can anyone show another team where their last five #1 picks are all current starters (which Floyd, Rhodes, and Patterson should all be this year)? There's usually a bust in there somewhere.

I guess I don't mind if we choose the best available QB with our 2nd or 3rd round pick. I wonder if we can work out a trade with the Texans early for that pick #33, for cheaper than it will be on draft day. That way we can spend the night picking out that one guy who we think has what it takes to be a QB in the NFL.

80 PurplePride 84 wrote:Saw something on twitter that goes to show how much having that QB means if you didn't already know:

Spielman has drafted more Pro Bowlers than Ted Thompson.

“The Minnesota Vikings have selected 61 players since Rick Spielman took over their draft room in 2006. Eight of the 61 have earned Pro Bowl honors. The Green Bay Packers have drafted 87 players since Ted Thompson became their general manager in 2005. Seven of the 87 have become Pro Bowlers.”

First, a couple of caveats: Spielman didn’t run the 2006 draft with the Vikings; he was hired after the Fran Foley fiasco. Foley ran that draft. Also, Spielman did not have full control of the draft room until 2012, when he was promoted to general manager.

So if 2006 is no longer in play — the year Pro Bowl linebacker Chad Greenway was drafted — Spielman is really tied at seven with Thompson, albeit in two fewer seasons running the draft. And it can be debated just how many of the remaining Pro Bowl players should be credited to Spielman. To be sure, also, the Pro Bowl is hardly the perfect way to judge the success or failure of draft picks.

That said, there are interesting and instructive notions to come from that simple paragraph comparing the work of the two NFC North personnel bosses.

MrPurplenGold wrote:I'm a big science guy so I found this interesting

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=10811695

ESPN sports science rated Blake Bortles as the number 1 QB in this year's draft and ranked him right above Andy Dalton and just below EJ Manuel. Take that for what it's worth. Interestingly enough sports science "claims" that they have never "incorrectly" projected a QB's success in the NFL. They actually had Colin Kapernick as the #1 QB the year he came out. With that, other than Bortles, I don't think I would want the Vikings to draft a QB at 8.

VikingLord wrote: Interesting, but I can't seem to find the sports science evals of anyone other than Bortles at QB. Did you see equivalent evals for any of the other QBs in this year's draft, and if so, can you provide a link(s)? I'd be interested to see where Bortles ranks compared to other QBs in this year's class versus other QB's in other classes.

John_Viveiros wrote:It's going to be a crazy couple days.