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Mr. Packer fan said,
"So because you didnt get any Championships with crappy QBs, it is now time to ignore your best player because you have a QB who might be good someday?"

AD might be their best running back but to me anyway, he might not be their best option to build their team around and "Run it Through".
Trying to develop TB into a top notch QB with his youth, skills, and leadership abilities seems much more promising than trying to run an offense through a 30 year old running back. I have not mentioned that AD would/will not be a major contributor to this offense I just want to see this team centered around TB.
What would the Packers be had they not developed AR and run their offense through him. Take him out of the equation and they would not win 6 games all year.
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I know I'll be in the minor minor minority here but... although I hope for more Peterson carries next week I am glad that Norv is making the offense centered on Bridgewater. I know in public and even among the players Coaches need to have the "compete to win every week" mentality I definitely believe that THEY believe this is mostly a growing year and prepping for a superbowl run soon. Yes the amazing can happen but I think they are mostly focused on preparing this team for long term contention. So with that said, the more in game pressure and exposure they can give Teddy the better. Maybe not 50 times a game but I would love to see him drop back 40 times a game from here on out.
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IrishViking wrote:I know I'll be in the minor minor minority here but... although I hope for more Peterson carries next week I am glad that Norv is making the offense centered on Bridgewater. I know in public and even among the players Coaches need to have the "compete to win every week" mentality I definitely believe that THEY believe this is mostly a growing year and prepping for a superbowl run soon. Yes the amazing can happen but I think they are mostly focused on preparing this team for long term contention. So with that said, the more in game pressure and exposure they can give Teddy the better. Maybe not 50 times a game but I would love to see him drop back 40 times a game from here on out.
I think they are trying to take advantage of matchups. They may run 45 times against the bears and pass 45 times against the Chiefs. Ideally you'd love to have a team so good at running the ball you don't have to worry about who you are facing and can simply impose your will. That's not where this team is right now.
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How Teddy Bridgewater's first 16 starts stack vs. upcoming QBs

By "upcoming QBs" they mean the QBs of the teams remaining on the Vikes schedule this year. It's interesting to see the comparison.
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I have no problem with Norv trying to shift the team towards a pass oriented offense. The age of the RB carrying a team to the SuperBowl is long gone. The rules of modern football demand a pass happy OC. The problem is NOT Norv, its the fact that he has no OL with which to run much of any passing offense. Norv is not at fault for this, the Management is. They pinned all our hopes on a guy with a bad back (Sulley), a draft choice that hasnt panned out (Khalil) despite many opportunities to prove himself, a mediocre journeyman whose biggest skill is that he is mediocre at every position (Berger), and a rookie that has so far been over-matched.
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chicagopurple wrote:I have no problem with Norv trying to shift the team towards a pass oriented offense. The age of the RB carrying a team to the SuperBowl is long gone. The rules of modern football demand a pass happy OC.
Seattle just went to back-to-back Super Bowls with a power running game, a strong defense and an offense that was definitely not "pass happy". The NFC's previous Super Bowl representative, the 49ers used essentially the same formula.
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Purple bruise wrote:Mr. Packer fan said,
"So because you didnt get any Championships with crappy QBs, it is now time to ignore your best player because you have a QB who might be good someday?"

AD might be their best running back but to me anyway, he might not be their best option to build their team around and "Run it Through".
Trying to develop TB into a top notch QB with his youth, skills, and leadership abilities seems much more promising than trying to run an offense through a 30 year old running back. I have not mentioned that AD would/will not be a major contributor to this offense I just want to see this team centered around TB.
What would the Packers be had they not developed AR and run their offense through him. Take him out of the equation and they would not win 6 games all year.
Why do you think going away from AP would help Teddys development? It seems it would only hinder his confidence and ability to learn at his own pace. McCarthy tried to run the ball often in Rodgers earlier years with Ryan Grant, but Grant wasn't nearly the player AP is obviously, let Teddy lean on your best player, dont throw him to the wolves when he isnt ready.

As to the Packers record without Rodgers, I disagree, Flynn was 3-3 in his career starting for GB, that's pretty good considering he was filling in for our 100 Million $ cap space eating QB.
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Jordysghost wrote: Why do you think going away from AP would help Teddys development? It seems it would only hinder his confidence and ability to learn at his own pace. McCarthy tried to run the ball often in Rodgers earlier years with Ryan Grant, but Grant wasn't nearly the player AP is obviously, let Teddy lean on your best player, dont throw him to the wolves when he isnt ready.

As to the Packers record without Rodgers, I disagree, Flynn was 3-3 in his career starting for GB, that's pretty good considering he was filling in for our 100 Million $ cap space eating QB.
Try reading my post again :roll: Where does it say that they should "go away from AD to aid in TB's developmen" :?: WTF does that mean anyway :roll: AD will be a major contributor to an offense ran though a QB with TB's skills and leadership. I for one, want TB to have the control and leadership to this team.
You are delusional to imagine that the Packers would even be competitive without Rogers. He is 90% of that team's offense.
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Purple bruise wrote: Try reading my post again :roll: Where does it say that they should "go away from AD to aid in TB's developmen" :?: WTF does that mean anyway :roll: AD will be a major contributor to an offense ran though a QB with TB's skills and leadership. I for one, want TB to have the control and leadership to this team.
You are delusional to imagine that the Packers would even be competitive without Rogers. He is 90% of that team's offense.
You were complaining about your lack of Championships while being centered around AP, and saying that you should be centered around Teddy, what else was I supposed to take from that? You litterally said in your own damn words that the offense shouldnt run through AD. Are you confused?

Lol yea i guess Matt Flynns 3-3 record as a starter in GB is a figment of my imagination :lol: Either way, you arent saying very much, if we didn't have Rodgers we would have a completely different roster most likely, being that Rodgers takes up about 85% of our cap. That said, I think if you switched Rodgers out for a guy like Palmer and left the rest of the Offense the same, we wouldn't be as good obviously, but we would still be a balanced top 15 unit. Our running game has been damn effective since drafting Lacy, enough so that it is clear that we aren't 90% Aaron Rodgers as you say, but what do the Packers have to do with the matter at hand?
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chicagopurple wrote:I have no problem with Norv trying to shift the team towards a pass oriented offense. The age of the RB carrying a team to the SuperBowl is long gone. The rules of modern football demand a pass happy OC. The problem is NOT Norv, its the fact that he has no OL with which to run much of any passing offense. Norv is not at fault for this, the Management is. They pinned all our hopes on a guy with a bad back (Sulley), a draft choice that hasnt panned out (Khalil) despite many opportunities to prove himself, a mediocre journeyman whose biggest skill is that he is mediocre at every position (Berger), and a rookie that has so far been over-matched.
The comment at the end is beyond ridiculous. Matt kalil didn't work out but he was the consensus top tackle that year by everyone. We did address what was our most glaring need on o line with that pick. As for Sullivan, I don't think anyone knew he was gnna be gone half the year, he has been one of the better centers in the league I don't see the Patriots drafting qbs in the first round because Tom Brady could get hurt. Berger is a depth player we have had a lot of injuries on the line so he's starting were not the only team in the NFL with a bad o line right now.

Management has done a fantastic job rebuilding this team over the last 3 years, I'm sick of people bashing spielman when things go wrong. Every #### NFL team has to battle through adversity, most NFL teams have an area of glaring weakness. Our oline was not on deaths door at the draft, it fell apart preseason unfortunately at that point it's hard to fix your problems.


This team is moving in an amazing direction but we are still rebuilding, and in 2-3 years I expect this team to be a serious contender. Thanks to management and our coaching staff.
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Packer fan said,

"You were complaining about your lack of Championships while being centered around AP, and saying that you should be centered around Teddy, what else was I supposed to take from that? You litterally said in your own damn words that the offense shouldnt run through AD. Are you confused?
Lol yea i guess Matt Flynns 3-3 record as a starter in GB is a figment of my imagination :lol: Either way, you arent saying very much, if we didn't have Rodgers we would have a completely different roster most likely, being that Rodgers takes up about 85% of our cap. That said, I think if you switched Rodgers out for a guy like Palmer and left the rest of the Offense the same, we wouldn't be as good obviously, but we would still be a balanced top 15 unit. Our running game has been damn effective since drafting Lacy, enough so that it is clear that we aren't 90% Aaron Rodgers as you say, but what do the Packers have to do with the matter at hand?"

Man you must have OD and some bad cheese :lol: I NEVER was complaining about this team lack of championships. Where did that come from :roll: I am not confused about anything, I said that I want the team centered around their QB and that is that. AD will be a vital part of this team regardless. Wow you take such interest in the Vikings it is amazing.
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Purple bruise wrote:
What ever dude. And all of that ended up with how many championships :confused: I want to see this team go in a different direction and that direction is following TB into the future and I am all in with him and his leadership :!:
Is this post make believe?

Oh, and you are damn right I take interest in the Vikings.

BTW, I understand exactly that you think centering this team around Bridge is the right decision, all I am saying is that would be silly to do with a developing QB and the best RB in the game.
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Purple bruise wrote:Man you must have OD and some bad cheese :lol: I NEVER was complaining about this team lack of championships. Where did that come from :roll:
It's right up the thread, in your own words, in a response to DK Sweets. You wrote:
What ever dude. And all of that ended up with how many championships :confused: I want to see this team go in a different direction and that direction is following TB into the future and I am all in with him and his leadership :!:
I am not confused about anything, I said that I want the team centered around their QB and that is that. AD will be a vital part of this team regardless. Wow you take such interest in the Vikings it is amazing.
He's a football fan and he's no more or less deserving of respectful treatment than any other member of this board, a fact I'd like everyone to work a little harder to keep in mind.
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Mothman wrote: It's right up the thread, in your own words, in a response to DK Sweets. You wrote:
He's a football fan and he's no more or less deserving of respectful treatment than any other member of this board, a fact I'd like everyone to work a little harder to keep in mind.
Okay Jim, if you also decided to call it "complaining" but I call it stating a fact that this team did not win any championships running their offense through AD. It was NOT complaining at all!
You have little to no faith in TB anyway do you? Well we shall see how it all turns out.
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Purple bruise wrote:Okay Jim, if you also decided to call it "complaining" but I call it stating a fact that this team did not win any championships running their offense through AD. It was NOT complaining at all!
If that's the case, you could have just politely clarified that to Caleb.
You have little to no faith in TB anyway do you? Well we shall see how it all turns out.
Yes, time will tell.

I see no reason to have faith in Bridgewater. What has he done to earn the kind of complete and utter confidence that word implies? Other than sheer desire to believe, why would any Vikings fan have faith in Bridgewater at this early stage of his career?

Isn't it enough to just acknowledge his potential and root for him to succeed?
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