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Re: Why is Ponder still on the team???

Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 8:49 pm
by jackal
Funny he mentions auditioning for other teams; and then stinks it up, laughs

Re: Why is Ponder still on the team???

Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 9:02 pm
by Eli
jackal wrote:Funny he mentions auditioning for other teams; and then stinks it up, laughs
Well, first there's Ponder, the intellectual, and we've always know Ponder is a very intelligent guy. He'd be foolish to think that any remaining snaps he gets in Minnesota, whether in the preseason or (heaven help us) regular season, are anything but tape for his next job.

Then there is the actual reality of Ponder, the player. He looked exactly like the Ponder that played for the past three years in Minnesota. Eerily so. Showing all the same tendencies - slow decision making, poor accuracy, and an odd detachment from everything happening around him.

Re: Why is Ponder still on the team???

Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 8:30 am
by Purple bruise
jackal wrote:Funny he mentions auditioning for other teams; and then stinks it up, laughs
Kind of hard to "shine" playing with all second and third team players. Bridgewater did worse playing with 1st teamers.

Re: Why is Ponder still on the team???

Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 9:51 pm
by Demi
yeah, how about shining the last 30+ games he played as a starter? If he had shone then, he wouldn't be 3rd string now. :wallbang:

You HONESTLY believe they stick ANY starting NFL Qb in their with the 2nds and 3rd they look that bad? HELL NO, they find open guys, they throw accurate catchable passes.

MY GOODNESS APOLOGISTS.

Re: Why is Ponder still on the team???

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 1:21 am
by Purple bruise
Demi wrote:yeah, how about shining the last 30+ games he played as a starter? If he had shone then, he wouldn't be 3rd string now. :wallbang:

You HONESTLY believe they stick ANY starting NFL Qb in their with the 2nds and 3rd they look that bad? HELL NO, they find open guys, they throw accurate catchable passes.

MY GOODNESS APOLOGISTS.
I thought that the mods made it quite clear to the board about refering to people aS APOLOGISTS. You obviously did not take them seriously or just do not give a crap and continue trying to start an argument. :roll: :wallbang:

Re: Why is Ponder still on the team???

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 1:27 am
by Demi
:wallbang: Why are we even still discussing this guy. Arrrgghhhhhh

Re: Why is Ponder still on the team???

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 1:47 am
by Purple bruise
Good question, why are you :confused:

Re: Why is Ponder still on the team???

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 3:59 am
by Reignman
Purple bruise wrote: Kind of hard to "shine" playing with all second and third team players. Bridgewater did worse playing with 1st teamers.
It shouldn't be that hard, he was playing AGAINST 3rd stringers and guys who have never played at this level before. Guys who will probably be unemployed come September. But who cares who it was with or against, an "audition" that bad isn't going to impress any team.

Re: Why is Ponder still on the team???

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 5:24 am
by Purpnation
Purple bruise wrote: Kind of hard to "shine" playing with all second and third team players. Bridgewater did worse playing with 1st teamers.
You look at it like he was playing alongside 2nd and 3rd team players, while most would look at it as playing against 2nd and 3rd teamers.

Re: Why is Ponder still on the team???

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 12:57 pm
by S197
Purple bruise wrote: I thought that the mods made it quite clear to the board about refering to people aS APOLOGISTS. You obviously did not take them seriously or just do not give a crap and continue trying to start an argument. :roll: :wallbang:
If it wasn't clear before, it should be now. I'll reiterate, the term "apologist" will be considered a good fan/bad fan remark, which is against board rules and will come with a warning.

Re: Why is Ponder still on the team???

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 8:57 pm
by Funkytown
S197 wrote: If it wasn't clear before, it should be now. I'll reiterate, the term "apologist" will be considered a good fan/bad fan remark, which is against board rules and will come with a warning.
And the dozens of posts referring to Demi as a "troll" and/or ones that mock him or call him out personally come with warnings too, right? Why do I suspect a good portion of those were probably ignored by the mods?

Just curious about these rules. Because from the outside looking in, it doesn't always seem to be a two-way street. Seems like the so-called "negative" fans get by with a lot less. Or maybe it's just made public more with them?

Re: Why is Ponder still on the team???

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 10:53 pm
by S197
Funkytown wrote:And the dozens of posts referring to Demi as a "troll" and/or ones that mock him or call him out personally come with warnings too, right? Why do I suspect a good portion of those were probably ignored by the mods?

Just curious about these rules. Because from the outside looking in, it doesn't always seem to be a two-way street. Seems like the so-called "negative" fans get by with a lot less. Or maybe it's just made public more with them?
For the most part, warnings and the number of warnings each poster has is not public knowledge. The same goes for when a poster reports someone. Without that knowledge, I don't really see how you can determine who "gets away" with what.

In this particular instance, I drew attention to it because I don't want to see us going down the name calling road that was so prevalent for a while. I made it rather clear in a thread that was stickied for several weeks during the offseason that this change would be implemented.

Re: Why is Ponder still on the team???

Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2014 12:05 am
by Eli
S197 wrote: For the most part, warnings and the number of warnings each poster has is not public knowledge. The same goes for when a poster reports someone. Without that knowledge, I don't really see how you can determine who "gets away" with what.

In this particular instance, I drew attention to it because I don't want to see us going down the name calling road that was so prevalent for a while. I made it rather clear in a thread that was stickied for several weeks during the offseason that this change would be implemented.
Then you should also make "troll" a forbidden word. In fact, why not add these forbidden names to the dozens of ####'d out naughty words that the ultrasensitive souls here on VMB cannot be exposed to?

Re: Why is Ponder still on the team???

Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2014 12:13 am
by headless_norseman
Ponder is still on the roster because he can be a servicable 3rd stringer with experience. :shock:

Re: Why is Ponder still on the team???

Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2014 2:31 am
by S197
Eli wrote:Then you should also make "troll" a forbidden word. In fact, why not add these forbidden names to the dozens of ####'d out naughty words that the ultrasensitive souls here on VMB cannot be exposed to?
Please. The two are not remotely similar, we could barely get through a thread last year without someone being called a Ponder apologist or Frazier apologist. It permeated the board more than any other negative connotation out there by a long shot and that is why the decision was made. It was nothing more than an easy jab at anyone who disagreed with your position.

The word filter is something entirely different and also something I don't have any control over (I'm not even sure words can be added or removed). It's likely a setting in the software. In any case, if you or anyone else wishes to continue this discussion, feel free to PM me.