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Re: Fire the Coach

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80 PurplePride 84 wrote: You don't think Griffen has talent? And are writing Floyd and Rhodes off already after 6 games?

There's definitely is a lack of talent though.
Who is playing good on this team right now? Rhodes?...no. Floyd? Invisible for almost entire games. Floyd has shown flashes, but no where near a consistent basis. The "talent" you hear more often than not is Greenway, KWill, Jared, Robison. All over 30. You have a few guys who have shown flashes that are younger, but flashes don't mean we can count on them. Harrison is the only young guy on defense who seems to consistently perform....Henderson has shown some improvement, but gain wildly inconsistent.

The team has been rebuilding for three years, and Spielman has been half assing it for three years...
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Re: Let's pick a new coach!

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mondry wrote:I want a guy who understands quarterbacks. One of the biggest things in this game is having an elite quarterback. Rich Gannon was on KFAN talking about how it took so long for his career to take off and he said one of the big things was none of the coaches in minnesota really instilled in him what it took to be a winning QB in the NFL. He said it wasn't until MIKE MCCARTHY, the kansas city QB's coach at the time that he really learned how much work he had to put in, what to look for in watching film, watching the first down defense, the second down defense, third down defense, the blitz reel, and studying defenses.

Now, I don't know about you guys but I find it amazing, though not surprising, that we had (have?) no one in the building that understood QB's well enough! And then to hear that he credits MIKE MCCARTHY, THE GB PACKERS HEAD COACH for his development and getting it to "click" for him in KC. Then what do you know, Aaron Rodgers, under Mccarthy, stud... coincidence? How about Flynn, throws for nearly 500 yards and 6 TD's in Mccarthy's system under his tutelage but he was still too young when he hit FA, total bust every where else.

If you look at our QB history though it makes sense. We've developed almost no one, maybe Culpepper but he did play with 2 hall of fame WR's, an incredible O-line, etc. We've always had our luck with free agent vets like Favre, Frerrote, Cunningham, Moon, etc. Imagine the franchise just doesn't have that "QB whisperer" who can get the QB to study and learn to read a defense, to go through their reads, have proper mechanics, etc. NO MATTER WHO WE TAKE THEY'LL ALWAYS BE A BUST. Bridgewater WILL bust on our team as it stands.

So I'm looking for someone who's probably an offensive coordinator now, who was a QB's coach and has had experience developing guys. I want a guy who can get the most out of a russel wilson, not someone who gets the bare minimum out of a Ponder because imo, they're not vastly different prospects, both second rounders but one is getting good coaching.

Now with that said, I also want a spread offense with 3 WR's, 1 TE, 1 QB, 1 RB as the base formation we work everything out of. This is because it's much easier to run the ball with less guys near the LoS than it is to pass the ball out of a power running formation. The goal would be to get 3 to 4 yards per carry, not as in YPC but as in, we run the ball, we get 3 yards minimum. None of this invite everyone up and run for -2 yards on most plays hoping to get AD to the second level for that 80 yard home run once in a while. Just consistent, reliable yardage out of the run game. How does it happen? With 3 WRs, that's 3 CB's in the nickel defense and if they play one on one, that's our advantage. If they leave a safety over the top guess what happens? SEVEN in the box, I know right? what the hell is seven in the box? This is the "real" benefit of AD in the passing game that we're currently failing horribly to utilize and only managed to do it ONCE in his entire career with you guessed it, Brett Favre(2009). Every defense we play, because of our condensed formations, can play 3 LB's every time we run, and nickel defense on 3rd and long plus cheating the safeties up because I'm sorry, John Carlson is not a threat to blow by anyone. On top of all that, because we have 3 WR's and a pass catching TE out there, AD becomes a much more viable threat out of the back field and they'll pretty much HAVE to put a LB on him and I don't think there are many 4.3 LB's out there that can run with him.

IT IS AN ABSOLUTE SHAME HOW WE'VE UTILIZED PETERSON. The "Let's just hope he can run through a brick wall" strategy.

For defense coordinator I think we should keep the 4-3 but ditch the zone defense of the cover 2. I want man to man coverage across the board so that means we're gonna have to really do our home work and study some guys and do what it takes to bring them in. We need coverage line backers and probably another man corner and we should always be looking to upgrade the pass rushers. Otherwise I think the defense side is pretty straight forward, someone who really knows their stuff and likes man to man coverage.

I realize it says "pick our new coach" but as I don't know who that should be yet, I thought I'd describe the perfect coaches and see if any of you know anyone who fits the bill hehe. The head coach HAS to be an offensive guy that knows QB's though. Otherwise we better trade ala Cutler cause the Lovie Smiths, the Fraziers, etc means all your QB's are going to be busts.

Do you really trust the guy who thought Freeman was ready to start with our next QB????????!!!!!!!!!
Great post. The whole bit about the way AD is used just accentuates Musgrave's utter lack of imagination and competence.

I agree with your whole take and I can't believe how dumb ths coaching staff actually is.
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Re: Let's pick a new coach!

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PurpleKoolaid wrote:We HAVE to be a run first, too much invested in AD. We literally don't have a choice.

Is someone holding a gun to our head? (and even then we have a choice - just not a good alternative) :wink: (You have given me an idea for a tagline though 8))

As a practical matter, we may have to be a run first team, but that is related to the relative talents between our running back and our carousel of quarterbacks (not the money we have invested in AD). Are you saying, that if we got an Andrew Luck type QB we would have to be a run-first team?
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Re: Let's pick a new coach!

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The Breeze wrote: Great post. The whole bit about the way AD is used just accentuates Musgrave's utter lack of imagination and competence.

I agree with your whole take and I can't believe how dumb ths coaching staff actually is.
Thanks, I mean it seems super obvious right? I would bet on at least 60% of plays teams are playing the run when we run and playing the pass when we pass. The other 40% is us trying to pass out of a power running formation with like 1 WR and John Carlson. Here's another "shocking" (or maybe not) stat

John Carlson has 121 offensive snaps, 39% of offensive plays. Patterson has been in for 62 snaps, 20%. Okay so the snaps don't look right, surely offensive potential, the stats should warrant Carlson's snaps right? Carlson - 6 catches for 35 yards, I mean really, 121 snaps, 6 catches, 35 yards. Let me be clear just cause I can see the confusion, that's for the season, not just last game!
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Re: Let's pick a new coach!

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Mondry for coach? ...maybe? :D
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Re: Let's pick a new coach!

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MelanieMFunk wrote:Mondry for coach? ...maybe? :D
Why not? Let Demi have the GM spot. The rest of us can pool our cash together and buy the team.
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Re: Let's pick a new coach!

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MelanieMFunk wrote:Mondry for coach? ...maybe? :D
I'm already working on getting my quarterback ready, here he is in action!

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Re: Let's pick a new coach!

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mondry wrote: I'm already working on getting my quarterback ready, here he is in action!

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Hey now, although it's GOOD that you know as much as the people in charge do--regarding the QB position--but I'm looking for a little bit better. ;) Or..a lotta bit!
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