VikingLord wrote:On the bright side, it can't be worse than this game. Unless Ponder has to start again. In which case it could be.
Which is why keeping Teddy healthy is priority #1. And as awful as the OL was tonight, I'm concerned that their great performance Sunday was a total fluke based on Atlanta having a poor front 7 and Bridgewater being so good that he helps them out.
We'll see what happens if Teddy Icewater gets this sort of heat...the concern with him was that at his size he wouldn't stay healthy. The ankle is already a piece of evidence to that end.
BGM wrote:
This was my belief after the Atlanta game. Detroit is looking like the real deal this season. Any given Sunday is always in effect, but with an excellent passing game, an effective running game, and a nasty defense clicking on all cylinders, it will be a tall order. Vikings are a season or two away from running with the elite. Yes, I consider the Lions elite right now.
We've certainly got to do better stopping the run or we WONT beat Detroit. Obviously with our poor offensive line play going against their dominant defensive line we'll have to scheme to get rid of the ball quick. I'm not sure we'll have as much luck spreading Detroit out as we did against Atlanta.
I don't think we brought a very good gameplan into this one. I think part of that is a lack of faith in ponder to make good quick reads that would be required against the blitz if we spread out the offense again, and our line isn't good enough to do much without the spread run game. I was hoping that by applying horizontal pressure on the defense with sweeps and the threat of sweeps we could effectively dominate the game on the ground. Once we fell behind 14-0, 21-0, 28-0 that was out of the window anyway.
DavidKarki wrote: I'm concerned that their great performance Sunday was a total fluke based on Atlanta having a poor front 7 and Bridgewater being so good that he helps them out.
I would confirm that the offensive line wasn't that good against Atlanta.
Doesn't matter if they are all bad. This PARTICULAR one is a known quantity. He's not going to develop into anything. Should have shipped him and at least tried to find someone who might have a future with the Vikings.
What 3rd string QB has a future anywhere??!!! Why not hold onto one that has starting experience in the NFL. Not many do.
The saddest thing in life is wasted talent and the choices you make will shape your life forever.
-Chazz Palminteri
Pondering Her Percy wrote:
What 3rd string QB has a future anywhere??!!! Why not hold onto one that has starting experience in the NFL. Not many do.
Ponder's starting experience has been good for exactly one thing - our experience with him tells us he stinks and is not going to be able to fix his fundamental issues.
Brad Johnson would be an example of a 3rd string QB who went on to have a future.
Demi wrote:Could have kept Guion and kept that big free agent money we spent on fat guy with a bullet in his leg. And likely no real loss in performance.
3 points over Ponder in there for another down. Good choice Zimmer.
Now you do have me scratching my head. Keep Guion over Joseph?? Have you been drinking???? If you pay any attention, Joseph has been very solid in just about every game this year getting penetration and hurries. When has Guion done anything, EVER for the Vikings??? Just because he sacked a guy like Christian Ponder twice when we were forced to throw....yeah way to go Letroy....what a stud you are
The saddest thing in life is wasted talent and the choices you make will shape your life forever.
-Chazz Palminteri
Watching Ponder's press conference. Holy cow--that shirt he's wearing, I have that exact shirt. It's a Merona shirt from Target; I got it there last week, wore it to work yesterday. How bizarre.
Now I'm worried that the next time I wear it to work, my coworkers are going to egg me or something.
I'd much rather be wrong and Spielman be a genius. And we actually be a factor.
Your overreactions are what's wrong. It seems like you sit by your keyboard waiting for the Vikings to do something wrong just so you "sound like you know what you're talking about" by bi*ching week in and week out. Your negativity does nothing but bring the board down and it's pathetic to see. Negative, "know-it-all" fans like you make me wish this board was still shut down
The saddest thing in life is wasted talent and the choices you make will shape your life forever.
-Chazz Palminteri
VikingLord wrote:
Ponder's starting experience has been good for exactly one thing - our experience with him tells us he stinks and is not going to be able to fix his fundamental issues.
Brad Johnson would be an example of a 3rd string QB who went on to have a future.
Wow 1 back in the late 90's.....keep going, you're hot
The saddest thing in life is wasted talent and the choices you make will shape your life forever.
-Chazz Palminteri
i'll sum this up for all of you. WE AREN"T THAT GOOD. PERIOD. we have a long way to go and we only have one hope at this point--teddy. our defense has played 3 really good qb's the last 3 weeks, but look at how many points we have allowed? the chief's shut down brady and yet look at what he did to us. our defense isn't really good at all, and our run game???? this is my favorite part. the only reason we ran like we did last week was because bridgewater was throwing all over the field and it opened up the run. wake up people.
Pondering Her Percy wrote:
Your overreactions are what's wrong. It seems like you sit by your keyboard waiting for the Vikings to do something wrong just so you "sound like you know what you're talking about" by bi*ching week in and week out. Your negativity does nothing but bring the board down and it's pathetic to see. Negative, "know-it-all" fans like you make me wish this board was still shut down
Nasty. Woof. Some of us find Demi's posts refreshing and enlightning. What was it you had to offer there?