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is this out of minnesota's price range??? its only going up...better get it done!!

OJVIKE wrote:http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/ ... -2-billion
is this out of minnesota's price range??? its only going up...better get it done!!

lol and wasn't this warned against LAST year? The price only goes up as time goes on...

What do you think happens if all the stars in the heavens align and everyone in Minnesota finally comes together and grants the Vikings their new stadium, but... they tell the Wilfs that it's contingent upon them paying $400 million of the cost instead of the $215 million that they seem to want to pitch in?

The chances of this thing ever coming together are gradually becoming infinitely small. Minnesotans are going to be attending monster truck rallies and Prince concerts in the Metrodump for decades to come.

One argument that I just don't get is the " Metrodome site has the infrastructure and the Arden hills location does not" I am an out of state Vikings fan but I have driven and flown to Minny many times for Vikings games " including the Dallas playoff game in 010" and I don't see any infrastructure in Minneapolis other than the dome itself. There is no parking other than individual lots the tailgating is a hodgepodge of gatherings in parking lots around the stadium and traffic was a nightmare coming and going. I am very intrigued by the talk of getting a site with actual parking areas and a place to have a great tailgating experience like they have in other cities. I am hoping that they build an outdoor stadium in Arden hills with real grass. I live in Ohio and went to the season opener in Cleveland in 09 and thought this perfect, no frills just a good stadium outdoors on a grass field, thats the way the game was meant to be!

Lash Man wrote:One argument that I just don't get is the " Metrodome site has the infrastructure and the Arden hills location does not" I am an out of state Vikings fan but I have driven and flown to Minny many times for Vikings games " including the Dallas playoff game in 010" and I don't see any infrastructure in Minneapolis other than the dome itself. There is no parking other than individual lots the tailgating is a hodgepodge of gatherings in parking lots around the stadium and traffic was a nightmare coming and going. I am very intrigued by the talk of getting a site with actual parking areas and a place to have a great tailgating experience like they have in other cities. I am hoping that they build an outdoor stadium in Arden hills with real grass. I live in Ohio and went to the season opener in Cleveland in 09 and thought this perfect, no frills just a good stadium outdoors on a grass field, thats the way the game was meant to be!

I think they're talking about the roads. The highway access to the dome is pretty good.

That said, i don't see where the Arden Hills site needs $100-$200M in infrastructure work. It's just off both I694 and I35W, with two 4 lane divided highways (US 10 and MN 96) running to the site. Yes, it'll need some access roads, additional turn lanes, etc, and maybe taking US 10 to 6 lanes would be a good idea, but that just doesn't seem like $100M in work.

glg wrote:I think they're talking about the roads. The highway access to the dome is pretty good.

That said, i don't see where the Arden Hills site needs $100-$200M in infrastructure work. It's just off both I694 and I35W, with two 4 lane divided highways (US 10 and MN 96) running to the site. Yes, it'll need some access roads, additional turn lanes, etc, and maybe taking US 10 to 6 lanes would be a good idea, but that just doesn't seem like $100M in work.

Additional exits and onramps, expanded exchanges between highways, additional lanes. Not cheap. Then there are roads around the stadium itself for access to parking lots. Looks like there's a lot of cheap land out there, so I'd expect them to build some massive parking lots.

There are also things like water, sewage, and electrical service. If there's nothing out there currently, like big office parks or shopping malls, then it will all need to be delivered. The more remote the area, the more it will cost. Looks like the former arsenal site in Arden Hills is surrounded by mostly residential subdivisions and trailer parks.

Eli wrote: Additional exits and onramps, expanded exchanges between highways, additional lanes. Not cheap. Then there are roads around the stadium itself for access to parking lots. Looks like there's a lot of cheap land out there, so I'd expect them to build some massive parking lots.

There are also things like water, sewage, and electrical service. If there's nothing out there currently, like big office parks or shopping malls, then it will all need to be delivered. The more remote the area, the more it will cost. Looks like the former arsenal site in Arden Hills is surrounded by mostly residential subdivisions and trailer parks.

It used to be a manufacturing facility...there HAS to be some sort of electrical and water service there...

^Meh, just don't build there then...

...or just hire some of those guys with connections to olive oil importing and construction to go and have a talk with her to "persuade" her. Hehe.

This is encouraging...


http://www.vikings.com/news/article-1/v ... 57fa502b40

80 PurplePride 84 wrote:http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... d-shortly/

This may be cause for concern... If they have to wait until the CBA is done to have access to the additional funds for the stadium it may have to wait until the next legislative session. This just keeps getting better...

It cannot be good for the stadium push that the whole decertification antitrust litigation will play out in federal court in Minnesota at the same time Lester Bagley and his band of misfits are trying to galvanize the legislature to back a new stadium at a still-unannounced site. I fear the end of the Minnesota Vikings as we know and love them is near.

http://blog.vikings.com/2011/03/23/good ... um-issues/

“All efforts are to keep the team there,” Goodell said. “I think there’s some urgency to having the stadium addressed both in the short term and the long term. We have a short-term issue with the Dome itself, a long-term issue with getting a solution to that.”

Zulgad also points out that Goodell would be “more than happy” to travel to Minnesota to help find a resolution and also that the NFL Commissioner has been in touch with Ted Mondale, who is chair of the Metropolitan Sports Facilities Commission.