Young Theodore Bridgewater

[Pondering Her Percy]

You are the one that won't leave it alone. I have an opinion and a perception and you just cant keep your "mouth shut" about how stupid it is. Have you said it enough times yet The Raiders and Jaguars have "elite" QBS TB is an "elite QB"?; Not by anyone's imagination but yours if you think that he has shown anything close to being elite. Good and improving but faaar from elite.
So as I said to you over and over on other topics can we agree to disagree?!

A few days ago when I looked at this thread, you guys continued to talk about it in here. So in turn, I chimed in. You're repeating yourself just as much as anybody is. And I never said Teddy, Bortles or Carr are elite but the point is, they will be given time just like every other young promising rookie gets. But yes once again, agree to disagree

[Purple bruise]

And I still believe it's as unrealistic as it gets. You literally NEVER see a team draft a first round QB two years in a row. Were the Colts considering a early QB after Lucks first year?? Highly doubtful. Are the Raiders or Jaguars going to look to draft Mariota??? Highly doubtful. Every team in the NFL that has elite QBs must just have idiots for GMs right? Since none of them have taken a first round QB to put behind their current good, young QB. What were they thinking??!! It just doesn't happen and it won't happen so I continue to be baffled as to why we are even talking about it. We already have Cassel who is a fairly reliable backup. You find a developmental guy to put behind him. Not waste a first round pick. Nobody fully knows what we have in Teddy but bottom line is, you let him take this team forward. Not waste a first round pick so a guy is breathing down his neck all year. Oh and for the 10th time.....MARIOTA DOESN'T FIT NORVS OFFENSE. He is a running QB that relies in his legs more than anything and is coming out of a non pro style offense. Just face the fact that he will not be in a Vikings uniform next year. My goodness[/quote]
You are the one that won't leave it alone. I have an opinion and a perception and you just cant keep your "mouth shut" about how stupid it is. Have you said it enough times yet The Raiders and Jaguars have "elite" QBS TB is an "elite QB"?; Not by anyone's imagination but yours if you think that he has shown anything close to being elite. Good and improving but faaar from elite.
So as I said to you over and over on other topics can we agree to disagree?![/quote]

A few days ago when I looked at this thread, you guys continued to talk about it in here. So in turn, I chimed in. You're repeating yourself just as much as anybody is. And I never said Teddy, Bortles or Carr are elite but the point is, they will be given time just like every other young promising rookie gets. But yes once again, agree to disagree[/quote]

I can respect your opinion about no other team (almost no other team) would draft a QB back to back in the first round. That is just fine and very true. My idea was to think outside of the box and maybe try something "new" for a change. If something would happen next year to TB I, for one, am not one bit happy about an old cast-off QB of Cassel's stature leading this team.
So to each their own and no hard feelings on my part. skol

[PurpleKoolaid]

I think theres nothing wrong with the idea of preparing another young QB. I am all for it. Even if Cassel comes back, I am all for it. We have been in situations where, I think, everyone wishes we had groomed MBT better, or hadn't even had him. Same with Webb playing against GB too soon. And the fact we had to start both of our rookie QBs before they were ready (or at least before I thought they were ready, nothing wrong with a year on the bench. I personally think JFB sitting out most of this year is going to do him good.)

We don't need to waste a first Rd. pick. But we need better then a MBT sitting on the bench. Maybe a young QB on another team that doesn't seem great, but maybe Norv and his kid could make work.

[PurpleKoolaid]

Oh, and how cool would it be if we got Cooper/Parker and Ekpre Olomu. That would be like when we got Floyd/Rhodes.

[TeddyBaller]

well known NFL Draft scout Matt Miller said that TB was the 2nd highest rated qb he has ever evaluated behind only Andrew Luck.. and yes when mariota was thinking about coming out for the 2014 nfl draft, he had tb rated higher than mm

[maembe]

Obviously we aren't drafting Mariota and won't have an opportunity to. However, it will be much more interesting to see what happens to Winston. He's clearly the best QB in the draft but he could definitely slip because of his off the field issues. Again, the Vikes wouldn't draft him anyway, but I could see someone unexpected grabbing him if he makes it into the 20's.

[mondry]

The Panthers spent their first pick in 2010 on Jimmy Clausen then spent the #1 overall pick on Cam Newton in 2011. Of course their first pick that year was 48th overall.

[Purple bruise]

well known NFL Draft scout Matt Miller said that TB was the 2nd highest rated qb he has ever evaluated behind only Andrew Luck.. and yes when mariota was thinking about coming out for the 2014 nfl draft, he had tb rated higher than mm

And that explains why 31 teams passed on him

[TeddyBaller]

And that explains why 31 teams passed on him

31 teams passed on him, because of supposed small hands, bad pro day, durability issues, not sure if he could play in cold weather

if you just went by the tape he was up there with clowney as a prospect... bridgewater leads all rookie qbs in completion percentage, passer rating, yards per attempt,total qbr, and has more wins than all of the rookie qbs combined.. keep in mind he has no ap, and about 2 o-linemen that are backups at best

bridgewater will only get better, meanwhile their is little chance mariota will be a successful pro unless you change your entire offense for him, and that may lead to more injuries to your qb like rg3

[PurpleKoolaid]

The Panthers spent their first pick in 2010 on Jimmy Clausen then spent the #1 overall pick on Cam Newton in 2011. Of course their first pick that year was 48th overall.

And Jimmy showed nothing his first year.

[mosscarter]

i don't get any comparisons to rg III. teddy is the total opposite he stands in the pocket. keep in mind for an entire year everyone was discussing "tank for teddy" because of how highly regarded he was. i'll ask this, what has he done to not live up to those expectations? he had a phenomenal preseason and he is having a great run now considering the total lack of talent around him.

[Purple bruise]

i don't get any comparisons to rg III. teddy is the total opposite he stands in the pocket. keep in mind for an entire year everyone was discussing "tank for teddy" because of how highly regarded he was. i'll ask this, what has he done to not live up to those expectations? he had a phenomenal preseason and he is having a great run now considering the total lack of talent around him.

Phenominal preseason A 41 passer rating with 3ints. against the Lions since you asked for an example of what has he done to NOT live up to those expectations? His first three games with zero tds, There you go. That being said, he has vastly improved.

[HardcoreVikesFan]

Phenominal preseason A 41 passer rating with 3ints. against the Lions since you asked for an example of what has he done to NOT live up to those expectations? His first three games with zero tds, There you go. That being said, he has vastly improved.

You say you support Teddy when other's call you out, but yet, you continue to take shots at him when you get a chance. We get it.

Your examples of him 'not living up to expectations' are cherry picking at its finest. Your stats are also misleading: he did score a touchdown in his first three games - it just wasn't a passing TD. Yes, he did throw 3 interceptions against Detroit, no one is discrediting that. Given the circumstances (injured offensive line) and facing the top ranked defense at the time (all while being a rookie), not many were surprised.

What is the guy supposed to do? Throw multiple TDs and pass for 300 plus every game? Teddy was a forced into a starting role as a rookie and his lead to the team to a 5-4 record as a starter. He already owns the Vikings' records for a rookie in pass attempts, completions, and yards. He has won more games as rookie than Tarkenton and has started as many games as Tarkenton. The only thing Teddy probably will not break is the rookie passing TD mark held by Fran. Teddy has bested every Vikings' rookie passer including your boy Ponder.

At the end of the day, you don't have to like Teddy. Personally, I am a huge fan, and I cannot wait for the years of success with him at quarterback. That being said, this team needs to ensure they have a proper depth chart behind Teddy. I am hoping we address the back up QB position this offseason.

[PsyDanny]

This thread was more fun when people posted stats and video/picture analysis of Teddy.

Is there any way the last few pages of this discussion wherein it is not about Young Theodore Bridgewater, could be moved to a more appropriate place (Hmm, like the NFL Draft), so the rest of us can talk about things that are not Mariota related, such as, lets see, Young Theodore Bridgewater?

Just saying...

[Pondering Her Percy]

You say you support Teddy when other's call you out, but yet, you continue to take shots at him when you get a chance. We get it.

Your examples of him 'not living up to expectations' are cherry picking at its finest. Your stats are also misleading: he did score a touchdown in his first three games - it just wasn't a passing TD. Yes, he did throw 3 interceptions against Detroit, no one is discrediting that. Given the circumstances (injured offensive line) and facing the top ranked defense at the time (all while being a rookie), not many were surprised.

What is the guy supposed to do? Throw multiple TDs and pass for 300 plus every game? Teddy was a forced into a starting role as a rookie and his lead to the team to a 5-4 record as a starter. He already owns the Vikings' records for a rookie in pass attempts, completions, and yards. He has won more games as rookie than Tarkenton and has started as many games as Tarkenton. The only thing Teddy probably will not break is the rookie passing TD mark held by Fran. Teddy has bested every Vikings' rookie passer including your boy Ponder.

At the end of the day, you don't have to like Teddy. Personally, I am a huge fan, and I cannot wait for the years of success with him at quarterback. That being said, this team needs to ensure they have a proper depth chart behind Teddy. I am hoping we address the back up QB position this offseason.

I was about to say the same thing. You say you support him and like his progress yet you take shots at him in almost every post you make. All you keep using is the first game against Detroit. Why don't you let this weeks game do the talking. That was the first legitimate defense Teddy faced in his young NFL career. Also, 2 of those INTs were tipped balls. One literally went through Asiatas hands which is not Teddys fault at all. The other was tipped at the line. Teddy has improved in every aspect since then. Calling him out about 1 bad game he had does not defend your point of him "not living up to expectations".