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Re: Jeff Gladney arrested

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:12 pm
by makila
Just released.

Re: Jeff Gladney arrested

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:48 pm
by RandyMoss84
makila wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:12 pm Just released.
What a sad waste of a first round pick but I have to give credit to the Vikings, they did the right thing and I wish Gladney the best

Re: Jeff Gladney arrested

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 5:29 pm
by VikingsVictorious
RandyMoss84 wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:48 pm
makila wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:12 pm Just released.
What a sad waste of a first round pick but I have to give credit to the Vikings, they did the right thing and I wish Gladney the best
Why is releasing him the right thing? Even if he's guilty of the charges? I get that it's the expedient thing to do, but expedience and right aren't necessarily the same. Don't people deserve at least a second chance. At this point I heard he was indicted. That isn't being found guilty.

Re: Jeff Gladney arrested

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 5:31 pm
by IIsweet
Helluva job by the Scouts !!!
Unbelievable

Re: Jeff Gladney arrested

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 6:22 pm
by RandyMoss84
VikingsVictorious wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 5:29 pm
RandyMoss84 wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:48 pm

What a sad waste of a first round pick but I have to give credit to the Vikings, they did the right thing and I wish Gladney the best
Why is releasing him the right thing? Even if he's guilty of the charges? I get that it's the expedient thing to do, but expedience and right aren't necessarily the same. Don't people deserve at least a second chance. At this point I heard he was indicted. That isn't being found guilty.
Abusers do not deserve a 2nd chance, it is like saying a murderer deserves a second chance, that is just my opinion

Re: Jeff Gladney arrested

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 6:44 pm
by VikingsVictorious
RandyMoss84 wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 6:22 pm
VikingsVictorious wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 5:29 pm
Why is releasing him the right thing? Even if he's guilty of the charges? I get that it's the expedient thing to do, but expedience and right aren't necessarily the same. Don't people deserve at least a second chance. At this point I heard he was indicted. That isn't being found guilty.
Abusers do not deserve a 2nd chance, it is like saying a murderer deserves a second chance, that is just my opinion
First of all you don't know he is an abuser. He's been charged as being an abuser. If you don't want to give him a 2nd chance then don't be a hypocrite and say you wish him the best.

I personally believe everybody who doesn't get the death penalty deserves a second chance. The death penalty should be used for people who don't deserve a second chance. If the person isn't allowed a second chance what's the purpose of allowing him or her to continue living. I don't believe somebody who beat up their significant other is worthy of the death penalty hence that person is worthy of a second chance. People get angry and do stupid things. It doesn't mean they shouldn't be allowed employment.

Re: Jeff Gladney arrested

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 6:51 pm
by RandyMoss84
VikingsVictorious wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 6:44 pm
RandyMoss84 wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 6:22 pm

Abusers do not deserve a 2nd chance, it is like saying a murderer deserves a second chance, that is just my opinion
First of all you don't know he is an abuser. He's been charged as being an abuser. If you don't want to give him a 2nd chance then don't be a hypocrite and say you wish him the best.

I personally believe everybody who doesn't get the death penalty deserves a second chance. The death penalty should be used for people who don't deserve a second chance. If the person isn't allowed a second chance what's the purpose of allowing him or her to continue living. I don't believe somebody who beat up their significant other is worthy of the death penalty hence that person is worthy of a second chance. People get angry and do stupid things. It doesn't mean they shouldn't be allowed employment.
:roll: at your comments, you are on the ingore list! Have a great day!

Re: Jeff Gladney arrested

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 7:01 pm
by VikingsVictorious
RandyMoss84 wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 6:51 pm
VikingsVictorious wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 6:44 pm
First of all you don't know he is an abuser. He's been charged as being an abuser. If you don't want to give him a 2nd chance then don't be a hypocrite and say you wish him the best.

I personally believe everybody who doesn't get the death penalty deserves a second chance. The death penalty should be used for people who don't deserve a second chance. If the person isn't allowed a second chance what's the purpose of allowing him or her to continue living. I don't believe somebody who beat up their significant other is worthy of the death penalty hence that person is worthy of a second chance. People get angry and do stupid things. It doesn't mean they shouldn't be allowed employment.
:roll: at your comments, you are on the ingore list! Have a great day!
I called you out for being a hypocrite. That obviously hurt your feelings.

Re: Jeff Gladney arrested

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 7:41 pm
by J. Kapp 11
VikingsVictorious wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 5:29 pm
RandyMoss84 wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:48 pm

What a sad waste of a first round pick but I have to give credit to the Vikings, they did the right thing and I wish Gladney the best
Why is releasing him the right thing? Even if he's guilty of the charges? I get that it's the expedient thing to do, but expedience and right aren't necessarily the same. Don't people deserve at least a second chance. At this point I heard he was indicted. That isn't being found guilty.
It’s public relations.

The Vikings (nor any other team in the league) do not want to be seen as soft on domestic abuse. It’s especially true for the Vikings because of the Adrian Peterson incident with his son. On top of that, the Vikings have the legal right to terminate his contract under the personal conduct clause. The indictment means there is sufficient evidence to charge Gladney with felony abuse and hold him for trial. That’s all the Vikings need.

I’m not saying it’s right or wrong. But I also don’t blame the Vikings for terminating his contract. Allowing him to remain employed sends a message that they care more about retaining the services of a first-round draft choice than they do about domestic abuse — or the woman he allegedly abused. The optics would be horrible.

Re: Jeff Gladney arrested

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 8:05 pm
by VikingsVictorious
J. Kapp 11 wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 7:41 pm
VikingsVictorious wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 5:29 pm
Why is releasing him the right thing? Even if he's guilty of the charges? I get that it's the expedient thing to do, but expedience and right aren't necessarily the same. Don't people deserve at least a second chance. At this point I heard he was indicted. That isn't being found guilty.
It’s public relations.

The Vikings (nor any other team in the league) do not want to be seen as soft on domestic abuse. It’s especially true for the Vikings because of the Adrian Peterson incident with his son. On top of that, the Vikings have the legal right to terminate his contract under the personal conduct clause. The indictment means there is sufficient evidence to charge Gladney with felony abuse and hold him for trial. That’s all the Vikings need.

I’m not saying it’s right or wrong. But I also don’t blame the Vikings for terminating his contract. Allowing him to remain employed sends a message that they care more about retaining the services of a first-round draft choice than they do about domestic abuse — or the woman he allegedly abused. The optics would be horrible.
That's why I said it's the expedient thing to do and not necessarily the right thing to do. A big problem with taking employment away in cases of domestic violence is that the couple often stays together, but now they have no income. You've just made the problem worse. What if they have children? Take away employment and they can no longer support their children.

Re: Jeff Gladney arrested

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 9:34 pm
by RandyMoss84
VikingsVictorious wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 7:01 pm
RandyMoss84 wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 6:51 pm

:roll: at your comments, you are on the ingore list! Have a great day!
I called you out for being a hypocrite. That obviously hurt your feelings.
I have no idea what hypocrite means so it does not hurt my feelings but nice try though! Do not bother responding since you are on the ingore list! Later!

Re: Jeff Gladney arrested

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 10:02 pm
by VikingsVictorious
RandyMoss84 wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 9:34 pm
VikingsVictorious wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 7:01 pm
I called you out for being a hypocrite. That obviously hurt your feelings.
I have no idea what hypocrite means so it does not hurt my feelings but nice try though! Do not bother responding since you are on the ingore list! Later!
LMAO you have me on ignore, but read my post. You're a hypocrite because you say you wish him the best, but he shouldn't be allowed employment. At least not at what he's good at.

Re: Jeff Gladney arrested

Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2021 6:10 am
by Cliff
Cool it with the name calling.

Re: Jeff Gladney arrested

Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2021 7:18 am
by StumpHunter
J. Kapp 11 wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 7:41 pm
VikingsVictorious wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 5:29 pm
Why is releasing him the right thing? Even if he's guilty of the charges? I get that it's the expedient thing to do, but expedience and right aren't necessarily the same. Don't people deserve at least a second chance. At this point I heard he was indicted. That isn't being found guilty.
It’s public relations.

The Vikings (nor any other team in the league) do not want to be seen as soft on domestic abuse. It’s especially true for the Vikings because of the Adrian Peterson incident with his son. On top of that, the Vikings have the legal right to terminate his contract under the personal conduct clause. The indictment means there is sufficient evidence to charge Gladney with felony abuse and hold him for trial. That’s all the Vikings need.

I’m not saying it’s right or wrong. But I also don’t blame the Vikings for terminating his contract. Allowing him to remain employed sends a message that they care more about retaining the services of a first-round draft choice than they do about domestic abuse — or the woman he allegedly abused. The optics would be horrible.
At the end of the day, most people don't want a guy who beats women on a team they cheer for and the Vikings know that. Not to mention he is a massive distraction that will hurt the team this year if the Vikings had kept him around. From a business and team standpoint he was just not worth the PR nightmare and the distraction he would cause.

Most importantly from a moral perspective, his getting cut could be the ultimate wakeup call for him and maybe he actually realizes he can't be a horrible human being and still make millions because he is physically gifted. Could be this forces him to try and be a better person who doesn't beat women.

Re: Jeff Gladney arrested

Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2021 8:23 am
by Cliff
J. Kapp 11 wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 7:41 pmIt’s public relations.

The Vikings (nor any other team in the league) do not want to be seen as soft on domestic abuse. It’s especially true for the Vikings because of the Adrian Peterson incident with his son. On top of that, the Vikings have the legal right to terminate his contract under the personal conduct clause. The indictment means there is sufficient evidence to charge Gladney with felony abuse and hold him for trial. That’s all the Vikings need.

I’m not saying it’s right or wrong. But I also don’t blame the Vikings for terminating his contract. Allowing him to remain employed sends a message that they care more about retaining the services of a first-round draft choice than they do about domestic abuse — or the woman he allegedly abused. The optics would be horrible.
The move in the end is public relations driven but it's not as if the Vikings jumped into action here. This is four months later. It was spurred on by the fact that he was actually indicted and so there will be a trail, lots of publicity and distraction, etc. I imagine an organization with the resources the Vikings have also did their own private investigation, came to their own conclusions, and decided he was guilty enough that it outweighed his value as a 1st rounder.

He's lucky he lasted this long considering the Vikings history with domestic violence and their players. They would have dropped an undrafted guy as soon as he had a warrant.