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Re: Week 10 Reaction Thread: Vikings-Redskins
Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 2:08 pm
by petev_sj
Bridgewater's return would be a great humanitarian story. But It can't make me ignore all of his deficiencies.
1. His throwing motion. I mean have you ever seen any professional QB throw the ball the way he does? Hell, have you ever seen an adult male ever throw a ball like that? Being that he is 6'1" and he throws the ball at near shoulder height. If I was a Defensive Coordinator. I could plan a game where the DLs and LBs just surround Bridgewater and have 90% of his passes batted back in his face.
2. His fear of throwing deep. The reason why Bridgewater's completions percentage is so high is because he throws so many check downs. I know this board nickname for Christian Ponder was check down charlie, but if you were honest. Wouldn't that name be more fitting for Brigdewater?
Sorry I just don't understand the elevation to sainthood for TB.
Re: Week 10 Reaction Thread: Vikings-Redskins
Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 2:08 pm
by Dmizzle0
808vikingsfan wrote:
You can't put the entire 30 on the defense. At the very least, 7 points were directly related to Keenum's turnovers.
yea, game should of been over at 35-20
Re: Week 10 Reaction Thread: Vikings-Redskins
Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 2:11 pm
by J. Kapp 11
808vikingsfan wrote:
You can't put the entire 30 on the defense. At the very least, 7 points were directly related to Keenum's turnovers.
No doubt. I think officially it was 10 points off turnovers. And that doesn't count the potential points the Vikings could have scored themselves. On the first pick, the Vikings were driving in Washington territory.
For the record, the 38 points the offense put up DID create a buffer for a couple of bad plays. In fact, with our defense, 38 points is an absolute luxury. The Vikings under Mike Zimmer are 24-2 when they put up 21 points or more (7-21 when they don't, counting the postseason).
Re: Week 10 Reaction Thread: Vikings-Redskins
Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 2:12 pm
by The-Purple-Reign
Agreed. I saw that hole in my point. But still, our defense is better than that, and if they are playing like they do when they're on, 38 points and a couple interceptions are enough. And because of that, people shouldn't put too much weight on Case for those interceptions. I think those interceptions aren't any worse that the D giving up 30 points.
Re: Week 10 Reaction Thread: Vikings-Redskins
Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 2:12 pm
by CbusVikesFan
The Vikings are 7-2. No matter what mistakes were made, what comparisons are summarized, the Vikings are 7-2. Hard not to like that.
Re: Week 10 Reaction Thread: Vikings-Redskins
Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 2:14 pm
by The-Purple-Reign
The-Purple-Reign wrote:Agreed. I saw that hole in my point. But still, our defense is better than that, and if they are playing like they do when they're on, 38 points and a couple interceptions are enough. And because of that, people shouldn't put too much weight on Case for those interceptions. I think those interceptions aren't any worse that the D giving up 30 points.
Re: Week 10 Reaction Thread: Vikings-Redskins
Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 2:16 pm
by The-Purple-Reign
CbusVikesFan wrote:The Vikings are 7-2. No matter what mistakes were made, what comparisons are summarized, the Vikings are 7-2. Hard not to like that.
a
That's the spirit!
Re: Week 10 Reaction Thread: Vikings-Redskins
Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 2:34 pm
by J. Kapp 11
petev_sj wrote:Bridgewater's return would be a great humanitarian story. But It can't make me ignore all of his deficiencies.
1. His throwing motion. I mean have you ever seen any professional QB throw the ball the way he does? Hell, have you ever seen an adult male ever throw a ball like that? Being that he is 6'1" and he throws the ball at near shoulder height. If I was a Defensive Coordinator. I could plan a game where the DLs and LBs just surround Bridgewater and have 90% of his passes batted back in his face.
2. His fear of throwing deep. The reason why Bridgewater's completions percentage is so high is because he throws so many check downs. I know this board nickname for Christian Ponder was check down charlie, but if you were honest. Wouldn't that name be more fitting for Brigdewater?
Sorry I just don't understand the elevation to sainthood for TB.
I'm not seeing a lot of fear in this throwing motion.
TB to Charles Johnson 2015.
I kinda like this one, too.
TB to Charles Johnson preseason 2016.
Then we have these highlights, which are from right before he went down.
TB vs. Chargers, preseason 2016.
Teddy's throwing motion wasn't pretty when he came up to the Vikings, but that last video proves that he had been working on it and improving it in a big way. He's also 17-11 as a starter. If we're going to credit Keenum for "just winning," then we have to credit TB, as well.
Re: Week 10 Reaction Thread: Vikings-Redskins
Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 2:43 pm
by J. Kapp 11
The-Purple-Reign wrote:Agreed. I saw that hole in my point. But still, our defense is better than that, and if they are playing like they do when they're on, 38 points and a couple interceptions are enough. And because of that, people shouldn't put too much weight on Case for those interceptions. I think those interceptions aren't any worse that the D giving up 30 points.
Yep. Interceptions happen. No doubt.
Here's the thing ... this year's history shows that the Vikings' defense isn't going to play like that very often. In the "Not Elite" thread, I pointed out that the game against Washington was an aberration for our defense. The most yardage they'd given up in a game all season to that point was 344, and they'd held five straight opponents to under 300. Until yesterday, only the Steelers had scored as many as 20 points.
I don't know if our defense is elite, but it's awfully good. If our offense scores at anywhere near the rate they did yesterday, we're going to win virtually every game.
Re: Week 10 Reaction Thread: Vikings-Redskins
Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 4:39 pm
by CbusVikesFan
The-Purple-Reign wrote:a
That's the spirit!
Thanks. While everyone is picking apart everything that went wrong, I'm basking in the fact that it's not being done with smoke and mirrors. And relishing the fact that basically the Vikings are flying under the radar and nobody is giving them a punchers chance of even winning the division.
Re: Week 10 Reaction Thread: Vikings-Redskins
Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 6:40 pm
by 808vikingsfan
For the record, I still don't agree with the officials overturning the TD catch by Harris. Looking at the replay, it looks like the ball squirts out a bit while Harris is sliding on his back. How can they confirm possession before his body goes OOB? Not enough evidence on replay. In fact, like I said, it looks like the ball moves. That's why he cradles the ball with his other hand. If he wasn't so close to the sideline, yeah, it's a catch no doubt. But because the play happens so close to the sidelines, I can't see how they can overturn it. Good effort though.
https://youtu.be/OckuNpHX-OA?t=38
Re: Week 10 Reaction Thread: Vikings-Redskins
Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 6:43 pm
by Texas Vike
CbusVikesFan wrote:
Thanks. While everyone is picking apart everything that went wrong, I'm basking in the fact that it's not being done with smoke and mirrors. And relishing the fact that basically the Vikings are flying under the radar and nobody is giving them a punchers chance of even winning the division.
NICE.
There was a moment Sunday when Case and Theilen were on the sidelines have a BLAST and man it just felt good to see that. These guys love playing for this team and they are having fun. Really cool to be a part of that.
Re: Week 10 Reaction Thread: Vikings-Redskins
Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 10:28 am
by dead_poet
Nasty Elflein rep (I watched this 9x). Special mention to McKinnon on the blitz pickup.
https://twitter.com/JReidDraftScout/sta ... 5321526273
Re: Week 10 Reaction Thread: Vikings-Redskins
Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 5:45 pm
by CbusVikesFan
Texas Vike wrote:
NICE.
There was a moment Sunday when Case and Theilen were on the sidelines have a BLAST and man it just felt good to see that. These guys love playing for this team and they are having fun. Really cool to be a part of that.
This group is definitely a team. I've been waiting for this for quite a while. A team with a good chemistry and laying it all out for each other.
This week is a big test. They have to pull it off however they can. Elflien has his biggest challenge with Donald. He's been creating havoc in recent weeks. It's going to be interesting to see how it plays out. Probably be sbit games on again this week here. I can smell it in the works.
Re: Week 10 Reaction Thread: Vikings-Redskins
Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 2:55 am
by John_Viveiros
CbusVikesFan wrote:The Vikings are 7-2. No matter what mistakes were made, what comparisons are summarized, the Vikings are 7-2. Hard not to like that.
As Bill Parcells would say "You are what your record says you are". We are 5 games over .500. That's pretty sweet. And we are there because we fully deserve to be there.