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To the Jim Brown doubters, you only can compare players with how they dominated in the era they played in. Im not going to say Brown would have been better in todays era with modern training, medicine, rules (hash marks have been changed), ect. Its not fair, so you look at what they did when they played. 3 players in NFL history dominated like no others at their position. Jim Brown, Don Hutson, and Otto Graham.

AP has lead the league in rushing 2x counting this season. Jim Brown lead it every season except 1.

In 72 the nfl changed the hash marks. It opened up the running lanes and you had the 72 dolphins with dual 1000 yard rushers and in 73 you had an nfl record of over 3,000 rushing yards by one team (Bills) in 14 games. But before that? Only 1 player rushed for 1500 yards in a season. Jim Brown. After brown retired until 73, no player rushed for even 1300 yards in a season.

Jim Brown has no peer, ask Barry Sanders dad, he'll even tell you.

Its unfair to AP to compare other players full careers to his when he isnt finished yet.

ivo610 wrote:Jim Brown has no peer, ask Barry Sanders dad, he'll even tell you.

Its unfair to AP to compare other players full careers to his when he isnt finished yet.

Didn't you just compare Jim Brown to everyone? "Has no peer" means everybody, not just guys who have retired.

And who cares what Barry Sanders' dad says? This is a discussion about who WE think are the top 5 RBs of all time. Feel free to disagree, but don't tell us our conversation is unfair.

J. Kapp 11 wrote: Didn't you just compare Jim Brown to everyone? "Has no peer" means everybody, not just guys who have retired.

And who cares what Barry Sanders' dad says? This is a discussion about who WE think are the top 5 RBs of all time. Feel free to disagree, but don't tell us our conversation is unfair.

I must have missed your list of top 5 that you posted. I mean that's why you are here posting correct?

Correct, he is head and shoulders above anyone retired or still playing.

I didn't tell you your conversation is unfair, please carefully reread the post. I said the comparison is unfair to retired players. See the difference? Of course you do.

Comparing a player with twice as many TDs as AP isn't fair as its not fair to players who declined late in their careers to use career averages with someone like Peterson who has yet to see a decline.

If you want a fair comparison, compare players at their peak. That is not a perfect comparison and has its obvious flaws but its much better than career comparisons.