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PurpleMustReign wrote:
someone had asked about license plates or some other sort of thing. I love that idea. I'd pay $100 per year for 5 years or something, plus the tabs, for that if it would bring a stadium to MN.


As fas as design, how cool would it be if they designed the outside of it to look like a huge Viking ship? The inner part of the ship would be the seating bowl. Wouldn't that be cool (albeit expensive)?
That was me, many states like Florida, Montana, etc have an amazing amount of specialty plates to choose from. In MT, you can support wildlife, college teams, ski areas, knitting circles( not kidding! ) firefighters, police, etc..etc.. We have about 100 plates at the DMV. Minnesota has 1 or 2 specialty plates to do with critical habit and ? something else. I live in MT, and I would send the state $100 dollars just to have the plate framed on my livingroom wall. The fact nobody in power has mentioned this, is just plain stupid. I've tried writing, but nobody responds. :wallbang:
please, everyone write the MSFC and mention this idea http://www.msfc.com/contact.cfm
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Minnesotans have a reputation for being stoic and reserved. However, Vikings fans are among the most passionate fans in the NFL. Of course, what goes on inside the dome during Vikings stays inside the dome. Inside the dome, one sees a multitude of adults were Viking helmets with blond wig braid extensions while wearing jerseys with the name of Favre, Peterson or Allen.

When the crowd needs to bring the noise to help the defense, the fans can rival most airport runways and they are usually good for creating at least one illegal procedure penalty for the opponents a game. While there is good natured one-liners and barbs exchanged with fans who are wearing the wrong color uniforms (especially green and gold), the fans are good at ensuring that nothing crosses the line.
This guy obviously never made the long walk up the steps from the front row after a loss. The 98' Monday Nighter, after a halftime lead that was marred by a late half ending Moss TD...I would hardly call it good natured one-liners and barbs...

I have a question for all you Vikings fans and this is a sincere question. What type of stadium would you like to see? Over the last, however long its been, your team good or bad, dominates in that Dome and struggles in open air and grass. I had a bet with the crew here in the office that the Bears would win that last meeting simply because it was outdoors. There was a stat last season I believe, that had the Vikings playing every game in 60 degrees or better. They were at Chicago and GB early and all their road games were to Florida, AZ, and other warm markets.

I don't know if to much is made about the Vikings and there precious dome field advantage, of the four losses this year, all four were on grass and three were non domed stadiums. Last year, 4 of the 6 losses were on grass and outdoors with no roof..The year before that 3 of 7 losses came on grass and 4 of 7 were outdoors. The year before that 5 of 10 were on grass.

Now, I don't know how much of that is being on the road itself, team not playing well, etc....But for what ever reason, the Vikings as of recent memory, do not do well on grass or outside...

Would you like to see a stadium outdoors and bring back Minnesota weather into play, or are you comfortable building another indoor stadium. I don't even know if its possible in Minnesota, but if it is to have grass year round, like Reliant stadium in Houstan. What do you as fans want to see.

As a Twins fan, I am thrilled to be playing baseball outdoors. I can not wait. I will miss the noise of the playoffs in the dome and with a team built on speed, it will be an interesting transition for them. I am not looking forward to planning a weekend in the Cities and having it rain the entire time and not getting to see any games...

Bottom line...what do you guys want?
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south_dakota_cowboy wrote:Would you like to see a stadium outdoors and bring back Minnesota weather into play, or are you comfortable building another indoor stadium. I don't even know if its possible in Minnesota, but if it is to have grass year round, like Reliant stadium in Houstan. What do you as fans want to see.
Indoors, no question. I think anyone wanting an outdoor stadium is buying into some misguided romanticism about the old Met and not the reality that there were a lot of empty seats in the late season cold games. Minneapolis is significantly colder than Chicago or Green Bay.
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glg wrote:Indoors, no question. I think anyone wanting an outdoor stadium is buying into some misguided romanticism about the old Met and not the reality that there were a lot of empty seats in the late season cold games. Minneapolis is significantly colder than Chicago or Green Bay.
I gotta be honest, I am not driving from Sioux Falls to see the Cowboys in late December unless there is serious meaning on the line. That is why I asked. So in a season like this glg....you don't think your fans would have continued to pack the stadium if were a outdoors stadium?
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south_dakota_cowboy wrote: I gotta be honest, I am not driving from Sioux Falls to see the Cowboys in late December unless there is serious meaning on the line. That is why I asked. So in a season like this glg....you don't think your fans would have continued to pack the stadium if were a outdoors stadium?
It's not a season like this that's a problem. It's a season '06 with an under .500 team. Take the game on New Year's Eve 2006, a 41-21 loss to the Rams to finish a 6-10 season? Outside? That game has a ton of empty seats.
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glg wrote:It's not a season like this that's a problem. It's a season '06 with an under .500 team. Take the game on New Year's Eve 2006, a 41-21 loss to the Rams to finish a 6-10 season? Outside? That game has a ton of empty seats.
I can't argue that, and if you do it right, that place could be used for so much more, just like the Metrodome...Cripes, Jerry has his obnoxiously large stadium booked for the foreseeable future with more than just Cowboys football. They Cowboys were not even the first team to play on that field...
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I just received a response from the folks at the MSFC. Seems the Head Director is from Montana, and hopefully, I'll be chatting with him soon about the License Plate idea. Finally, a lead! woohoo
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A retractable roof with field turf, much like what you have in Dallas, makes logistic sense.

In the warmer months, you can have outdoor events and close the roof if it rains.

In the winter, the show goes on. Not just football, but concerts, monster trucks, whatever is in town that can make money.

I like the idea of field turf because grass gets so chewed up. Plus field turf is probably safer than grass in the colder months.

But I just don't know, given the current economic climate and the legislature's reluctance to commit taxpayer dollars, whether it makes financial sense to have a retractable roof. Given the choice between losing the Vikings and getting something less than the perfect stadium, well, I guess we just have to be a little uncomfortable.
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CalVike wrote:latest stadium poll says 65% opposed to using public funding...I guess this is why the Twins desperately avoided a referendum and were successful
http://www.twincities.com/ci_14184529
I totally just read into this a little more...only 625 people were asked?

That's less than .012% of the population!

How could they make an accurate statement about the population with so few polled?
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thatguy wrote: I totally just read into this a little more...only 625 people were asked?

That's less than .012% of the population!

How could they make an accurate statement about the population with so few polled?
That's plenty if the sample is sufficiently random.
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thatguy wrote:^That's why people need to be creative with how to raise the money. Taxing people isn't the only way to do it!
Creativity is fine, but let's be realistic. They are asking for a $750M subsidy. No amount of creativity will come up with that sum. They need a local partner and Minneapolis has laws that limit its contribution to something like $10M and that brings the State into the mix no matter how much one tries to avoid it.
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A new wrinkle in the stadium push was introduced by the team on Saturday.
http://www.startribune.com/local/824580 ... D8EQDUUUUr
Star Tribune wrote:Vikings' spokesman Lester Bagley told a real estate gathering in Minneapolis that private developers and local government officials have approached the team about a half dozen potential Twin Cities suburban sites.
I think it is a smart move to bring the suburbs back into play. Despite the feeling by many that onfield performance should not influence stadium support, I suspect that the NFC Championship loss today will have an impact and that it won't be so positive. That said, I think fans and constituents can be made to support a concrete plan, something that has been lacking. So I'm hopeful the Vikings and the local politicians can work up a viable plan to move forward in the near future. The last thing I want is for the team to move out of Minnesota.
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CalVike wrote:A new wrinkle in the stadium push was introduced by the team on Saturday.
http://www.startribune.com/local/824580 ... D8EQDUUUUr I think it is a smart move to bring the suburbs back into play. Despite the feeling by many that onfield performance should not influence stadium support, I suspect that the NFC Championship loss today will have an impact and that it won't be so positive. That said, I think fans and constituents can be made to support a concrete plan, something that has been lacking. So I'm hopeful the Vikings and the local politicians can work up a viable plan to move forward in the near future. The last thing I want is for the team to move out of Minnesota.
I would hope that the plans for the new stadium would include concrete...
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http://www.startribune.com/opinion/edit ... c:_Yyc:aUU
The Star Tribune has an Editorial stating it's time for the stadium debate to heat up. Their most notable position in the editorial is their contention to forget the suburbs, site at the Metrodome, and maximize the profit of their parent company that owns land adjacent to the Metrodome, which they tacitly acknowledge at the end of the editorial. Their basic point that it's time to get moving is right on though.
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