Browns @ Vikings Game Day Discussion Thread -- Week 3

[Purple Reign]

How was that a fumble? I thought he was throwing?

The defender knocked the ball loose before Ponder's hand started forward - that's called an empty hand and correctly ruled a fumble.

[Captain]

This one isn't on Ponder its on this O-line that can't block

[VikingsKid28]

I feel sorry for anyone who paid for a Ponder Jersey

luckily i only payed 5 dollars for mine

[BGM]

Just when you're ready to give up on Ponder he starts making decent throws, then something stupid happens and he is back on the craplist.

You're putting that on Ponder? Really?

What I liked was the way he seemed to take charge on that drive. I honestly wonder if he needs a really long leash... maybe he needs to be just allowed to make plays? Could it be any worse than what we see now?

[PacificNorseWest]

That was a clear fumble.

Most of the blame on that is the pitiful blocking.

[Just Me]

Drop Loadholt on him from a 3rd story window.

That would be the most mobile I've seen Loadholt in a long time.

[soflavike]

Can someone file a missing persons report for Kyle Rudolph, last seen on the 1st play of the game?

[Captain]

You're putting that on Ponder? Really?

What I liked was the way he seemed to take charge on that drive. I honestly wonder if he needs a really long leash... maybe he needs to be just allowed to make plays? Could it be any worse than what we see now?

Thats what I've been saying!

[Crax]

Play before was perfect...should have been caught for a td

Nah, that was a good defensive play. Corner knocked that ball out.

[King James]

That was clearly a fumble. His arm moved forward but the ball was already out.

[S197]

That was a pass, not a fumble.. what the hell?

Forward motion rule was taken out this year.

[VikingLord]

Just when you're ready to give up on Ponder he starts making decent throws, then something stupid happens and he is back on the craplist.

Most of his "decent" throws are of the short variety, though, and even many of those are questionable.

Vikes are in deep doo-doo today. This one is going to be hard to stomach with a 3rd-stringer of an 0-2 team going on the road and successfully throwing into the end zone while Ponder has yet to attempt a throw into the end zone.

[BGM]

I'd like to see some competence from Ponder.

The problem is we see it (like in that last drive) and then it disappears for long stretches.

[VikingLord]

You're putting that on Ponder? Really?

What I liked was the way he seemed to take charge on that drive. I honestly wonder if he needs a really long leash... maybe he needs to be just allowed to make plays? Could it be any worse than what we see now?

I wish Frazier and Musgrave would give him his long leash. I agree it couldn't be worse than what we see now, and it might hasten the day when they finally sit this bum and realize he's not the future.

[BGM]

he has zero pocket presence. zero

I watched him step up and out of the pressure at least twice on that drive. It's difficult to have pocket presence without a pocket.