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Re: Sam Bradford's a Viking

Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2016 1:54 pm
by mondry
J. Kapp 11 wrote: He's a top-flight arm talent, that's for sure. I'm really interested to see how he performs on a better team. I'm hoping he rises up to meet his potential.
Yeah, I mean he was a top flight every thing prospect from the get go which is why he went #1 overall. But like was mentioned some where in this thread he's had a million different coordinators / offenses and some big injuries which would delay anyone from reaching their potential.

His performances toward the end of last season though really impressed me and his O-line and WR's were basically trash / lead the league in drops, and all that.

Personally I'm really excited about this, I've always thought highly of Bradford if he could just land on a stable team in a stable situation but never did I imagine it would be our team to provide it.

Re: Sam Bradford's a Viking

Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2016 2:17 pm
by mansquatch
He has the ideal stats for a pocket passer. Tall, big arm, great accuracy. A great fit for the type of passing game Turner wants to run. I think if they can get through the first 5 weeks without losing 2-3 games they could put together a dramatic run as Bradford gets chemistry with the WR. There is lots of upside potential here as well as downside risk. Just need it to be Sunday to start to find out.

Re: Sam Bradford's a Viking

Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2016 7:12 pm
by Purple Martin
mondry wrote:

His performances toward the end of last season though really impressed me and his O-line and WR's were basically trash / lead the league in drops, and all that.
I wanted to see some of his poor performances so I watched his first game throws against the falcons and was impressed, even though he was supposed to have played not so well in the early part the season. He was 36 of 52 in that game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zouyCp5hvL8

Re: Sam Bradford's a Viking

Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2016 8:44 pm
by S197
Wow 52 throws. The only way he's throwing the ball that much in Norv's offense is if the game goes into triple overtime.

(And before anyone says it, yes I know not possible, I'm not McNabb)

Re: Sam Bradford's a Viking

Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2016 8:50 pm
by Raptorman
S197 wrote:Wow 52 throws. The only way he's throwing the ball that much in Norv's offense is if the game goes into triple overtime.

(And before anyone says it, yes I know not possible, I'm not McNabb)
Well it is possible. In a playoff game. Someone has to win.

Re: Sam Bradford's a Viking

Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2016 10:08 pm
by 808vikingsfan
Not sure if this was posted yet.

Philadelphia Eagles Drops 2015.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvnvyId ... tu.be&t=37

Re: Sam Bradford's a Viking

Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2016 4:55 am
by RFIP
808vikingsfan wrote:Not sure if this was posted yet.

Philadelphia Eagles Drops 2015.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvnvyId ... tu.be&t=37
I was looking for this yesterday, good job by you.

And for the fellow who said they want him to be what Palmer is to Arizona, that is a great comp. In fact, I believe IF Minny flips Sam next year Arizona could well be his next destination....but I have a feeling I know how this is going to play out in Minny and its all good.

Re: Sam Bradford's a Viking

Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2016 5:59 am
by dead_poet
Some really great background into what's been happening this week. Bradford's been busy.

http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2016/09/07/sam- ... l-notebook

Re: Sam Bradford's a Viking

Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2016 8:10 am
by Mothman
Sam Bradford's task with Vikings is like learning a new language
It seems, then, that we should spend a minute or two discussing what NFL teams mean when they talk about the challenge of learning a system. At a base level, there's plenty of shared material in different playbooks; there are only so many routes an NFL team can run. The minutiae behind those routes, though -- the language used to call them, the depth at which they're run and the adjustments they take on against different coverages -- is the secret sauce that make one team's offensive recipe different from another. And those are the things that take time to learn.

Wide receiver Charles Johnson said "how things are called" is the biggest difference between systems.

"Some people have concept-based systems. We've got numbers, with a little bit of concepts here," he said. "I'm sure Sam has been in both styles of offense. He's picked it up well so far."
More at the link. It's a good, informative read.

Re: Sam Bradford's a Viking

Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2016 8:10 am
by Mothman
dead_poet wrote:Some really great background into what's been happening this week. Bradford's been busy.

http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2016/09/07/sam- ... l-notebook

That was interesting! Thanks for the link.

Re: Sam Bradford's a Viking

Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2016 9:16 am
by dead_poet
Mothman wrote:Sam Bradford's task with Vikings is like learning a new language
More at the link. It's a good, informative read.
It's the timing, chemistry and depth of routes that has me the most worried. As they said in the article, QBs/receivers get an entire offseason with each other and hundreds of reps. These are all new guys. On top of the technical part.

It won't surprise me if/when Bradford struggles, likely through the bye, if not longer. It's so much harder than just knowing the offense and calling the plays. I just hope it doesn't lead to unnecessary turnovers.

Thankfully this is a veteran coaching staff that has gone through this before. But to expect a smooth transition throwing balls to completely new receivers for five days is nuts. I almost hope Hill starts this week because of that. I'm not sure it'd be in Bradford's (or the team's) best interest to rush him out there on Sunday.

Thanks for the link.

Re: Sam Bradford's a Viking

Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2016 9:21 am
by Mothman
dead_poet wrote:It's the timing, chemistry and depth of routes that has me the most worried. As they said in the article, QBs/receivers get an entire offseason with each other and hundreds of reps. These are all new guys. On top of the technical part.

It won't surprise me if/when Bradford struggles, likely through the bye, if not longer. It's so much harder than just knowing the offense and calling the plays. I just hope it doesn't lead to unnecessary turnovers.
I hope not At the very least, it seems likely to lead to some extra incompletions.
Thankfully this is a veteran coaching staff that has gone through this before. But to expect a smooth transition throwing balls to completely new receivers for five days is nuts. I almost hope Hill starts this week because of that. I'm not sure it'd be in Bradford's (or the team's) best interest to rush him out there on Sunday.

Thanks for the link.
You're welcome. I'm nervous about the whole situation because it's a lot of pressure to put on Bradford when he's been with the team such a short time. That said, he's a veteran and maybe he can handle it. It helps that Turner has been through this before.

Re: Sam Bradford's a Viking

Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2016 10:06 am
by mansquatch
The timing routes will be the biggest challenge, IMO. However, Bradford is a pro and a 6 year veteran. He knows all the routes and the throws so it is likely first the terminology change and then the chemistry. Most teams do not hit stride until week 8 anyways, so I think if he can limit takeaways in games, especially the first 5, then our defense should give us a chance. From there it will be Sam making a few plays for us to win. Being able to rely on 28 is a huge boon for us in this transition. I think if they can get to the Bye with a 4-1 record they'll be doing great. 3-2 is not insurmountable either, but will place more onus on weeks 16 and 17.

Am I the only one who is loving how the media is once again giving us zero respect this season? I've heard Seattle as a playoff / SB favorite. Apparently they forget that they only reason they went to the divisional round last season was because Walsh missed a game winner.

BRING. IT. ON.

Re: Sam Bradford's a Viking

Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2016 11:20 am
by Cliff
So what's the emergency QB situation look like for the Vikings? Norv said we're going in with 2 QBs and there are injury concerns with both. Who takes over at QB should they both go down? Anybody know?

Re: Sam Bradford's a Viking

Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2016 11:27 am
by Mothman
Cliff wrote:So what's the emergency QB situation look like for the Vikings? Norv said we're going in with 2 QBs and there are injury concerns with both. Who takes over at QB should they both go down? Anybody know?
I have no idea.

McKinnon? ;)