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Re: Adrian Peterson (not) Reinstated

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 9:25 am
by dead_poet
@DarrenWolfson says on ESPN 1500 that someone close to Peterson expects "news" to happen with him over the next couple of days. #Vikings

Re: Adrian Peterson (not) Reinstated

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 9:29 am
by frosted
dead_poet wrote:
Oh joy, I can hardly wait.

This is stupid. It sucks that the team has to deal with this problem.


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Re: Adrian Peterson (not) Reinstated

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 10:26 am
by Pondering Her Percy
frosted wrote: Oh joy, I can hardly wait.

This is stupid. It sucks that the team has to deal with this problem.


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Got a feeling this means bye bye AP. Doesn't bother me as long as we get good compensation. Out with the old in with the new

Re: Adrian Peterson (not) Reinstated

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 10:39 am
by dead_poet
@JohnMiddlekauff NFL net just said Adrian Peterson could be on the move. Not sure many teams can take that contract. Id trade a 4th & take on the $
Am I missing something? I would be furious if this was the compensation, and this isn't the first time a fourth-rounder has been floated. He's more valuable to the Vikings than a fourth-round pick, especially when his contract is manageable.

Re: Adrian Peterson (not) Reinstated

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 10:42 am
by losperros
dead_poet wrote: Am I missing something? I would be furious if this was the compensation, and this isn't the first time a fourth-rounder has been floated. He's more valuable to the Vikings than a fourth-round pick, especially when his contract is manageable.

My thoughts exactly. I don't care what's happened with other NFL players. This is Adrian Peterson we're talking about.

Re: Adrian Peterson (not) Reinstated

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 10:53 am
by frosted
If he's traded I don't think we're gonna get the return we are hoping for. *Shrugs* I could be wrong, but just kinda my feeling.


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Re: Adrian Peterson (not) Reinstated

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 10:56 am
by PurpleMustReign
Well the AD era is probably over. :'( This sucks.

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Re: Adrian Peterson (not) Reinstated

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 11:00 am
by Mothman
dead_poet wrote: Am I missing something? I would be furious if this was the compensation, and this isn't the first time a fourth-rounder has been floated. He's more valuable to the Vikings than a fourth-round pick, especially when his contract is manageable.
The theory is probably that if Peterson wants out, the Vikes will take what they can get and that fi a team has to take on his salary, they won't want to give up a high draft pick as well.

Re: Adrian Peterson (not) Reinstated

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 11:05 am
by dead_poet
frosted wrote:If he's traded I don't think we're gonna get the return we are hoping for.
Then why do you trade him at all? Just to be rid of a guy on the roster that doesn't want to be there? Doesn't that set a pretty dangerous precedent (or is that already in the culture with Harvin?). And if that's truly his "value" to the league right now, you can't sell that low, can you? Not for a guy that could realistically get the rushing title back and be in the league MVP conversation again. No way. I either get what I want for him or force him to voluntarily sit out, which will cost him not only money but stats towards the record books, letting down his teammates, potential endorsements and draw even harsher criticism (outrage likely) from fans. I just don't see him doing that. I will call that bluff on Peterson every time.

Re: Adrian Peterson (not) Reinstated

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 11:08 am
by Mothman
Pondering Her Percy wrote:Got a feeling this means bye bye AP. Doesn't bother me as long as we get good compensation. Out with the old in with the new
PurpleMustReign wrote:Well the AD era is probably over. :'( This sucks.
You guys are illustrating what a blank canvas this situation has become. Wolfson reported that someone close to Peterson expects "news" to happen with him over the next couple of days and you've both jumped to a conclusion not implied at all in the report (which barely qualifies as a report). That doesn't mean you're wrong but at this point, people are just projecting their own hopes, fears, anger, whatever onto every piece of news and every development or non-development.

It's painfully obvious that nobody outside of the Vikings and Peterson's camp knows what's going to happen... and that assumes they've reached a firm conclusion, which may not be the case at all.

Re: Adrian Peterson (not) Reinstated

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 11:11 am
by Mothman
dead_poet wrote: Then why do you trade him at all? Just to be rid of a guy on the roster that doesn't want to be there? Doesn't that set a pretty dangerous precedent (or is that already in the culture with Harvin?). And if that's truly his "value" to the league right now, you can't sell that low, can you? Not for a guy that could realistically get the rushing title back and be in the league MVP conversation again. No way. I either get what I want for him or force him to voluntarily sit out, which will cost him not only money but stats towards the record books, letting down his teammates, potential endorsements and draw even harsher criticism (outrage likely) from fans. I just don't see him doing that. I will call that bluff on Peterson every time.

You might find this to be interesting reading:

The holdout handbook: Exploring key issues for players, teams

Re: Adrian Peterson (not) Reinstated

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 11:11 am
by IrishViking
dead_poet wrote: Then why do you trade him at all? Just to be rid of a guy on the roster that doesn't want to be there? Doesn't that set a pretty dangerous precedent (or is that already in the culture with Harvin?). And if that's truly his "value" to the league right now, you can't sell that low, can you? Not for a guy that could realistically get the rushing title back and be in the league MVP conversation again. No way. I either get what I want for him or force him to voluntarily sit out, which will cost him not only money but stats towards the record books, letting down his teammates, potential endorsements and draw even harsher criticism (outrage likely) from fans. I just don't see him doing that. I will call that bluff on Peterson every time.
Yes. Can't agree with this enough. We are in a strong position here with our healthy cap space. Let him sit on the bench while mckinnon gets touches. The amount of damage he would do to his value, rep, and record is so high if he doesn't blink first he really is too stubborn to do anything but be a full time mule.

Re: Adrian Peterson (not) Reinstated

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 11:19 am
by frosted
dead_poet wrote: Then why do you trade him at all? Just to be rid of a guy on the roster that doesn't want to be there? Doesn't that set a pretty dangerous precedent (or is that already in the culture with Harvin?). And if that's truly his "value" to the league right now, you can't sell that low, can you? Not for a guy that could realistically get the rushing title back and be in the league MVP conversation again. No way. I either get what I want for him or force him to voluntarily sit out, which will cost him not only money but stats towards the record books, letting down his teammates, potential endorsements and draw even harsher criticism (outrage likely) from fans. I just don't see him doing that. I will call that bluff on Peterson every time.
I agree, DP. That's exactly what I would do. I just don't think that's Zimmer's style. If Peterson is adamant about leaving and not bought in 100%, I don't think Zim will want to keep him around.

I don't know if that's the case (Adrian not wanting to be here) but if it is, I think Zimmer will want to let him leave.


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Re: Adrian Peterson (not) Reinstated

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 11:20 am
by IrishViking
Mothman wrote:
You might find this to be interesting reading:

The holdout handbook: Exploring key issues for players, teams

My gut tells me that AP doesn't have a lot of the advantages here. I would guess he doesn't have as big a leadership role after being barred for a whole year and his hold out has entirely to do with just not wanting to be there anymore. He can spin it how he would Like but I doubt the locker room will be quite as unified behind him as other ones are behind their hold outs. Honestly if he were to hold out And our option was a late forth rounder or something the amount we could fine Him, if he didn't report until after preseason would be a nice chunk of his salary.


Bottom line, AP loses too much holding out and I hope the viking brass knows that

Re: Adrian Peterson (not) Reinstated

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 11:24 am
by PurpleMustReign
Mothman wrote: You guys are illustrating what a blank canvas this situation has become. Wolfson reported that someone close to Peterson expects "news" to happen with him over the next couple of days and you've both jumped to a conclusion not implied at all in the report (which barely qualifies as a report). That doesn't mean you're wrong but at this point, people are just projecting their own hopes, fears, anger, whatever onto every piece of news and every development or non-development.

It's painfully obvious that nobody outside of the Vikings and Peterson's camp knows what's going to happen... and that assumes they've reached a firm conclusion, which may not be the case at all.
Idk... Just a gut feeling... Based on the luck of the franchise.

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