Report: Vikes looking to "get rid of" AP (AD)

[Mothman]

The only option I would vote for isn't available.

The "Only if some team offers some ridiculous package that would be crazy to pass up but will never happen because no team is stupid enough to make the Herschel Walker trade 2.0" option.

Short of that...no way!!

That's a "yes, if the price was right" answer... you're just demanding a really high price!

Congrats on reaching 700 posts.

[Mothman]

LOL! "According to Bryan Rose of SI.com" ...

Rose was just repeating what Mike freeman of Bleacher Report said and quoting from his report:

http://nfl.si.com/2014/05/12/minnesota- ... -peterson/

Because of that, Mike Freeman of Bleacher Report believes Minnesota is looking to part ways with Peterson.

“The Vikings are looking for ways to part with superstar runner Adrian Peterson sooner rather than later. Peterson is 29 and when backs hit 30, their production usually drops off precipitously.”

We've seen this dynamic before. These guys are all repeating a a rumor started by one reporter.

[Webbfann]

LOL! "According to Bryan Rose of SI.com" ...

Rose was just repeating what Mike freeman of Bleacher Report said and quoting from his report:

http://nfl.si.com/2014/05/12/minnesota- ... -peterson/
We've seen this dynamic before. These guys are all repeating a a rumor started by one reporter.

Just like the rumor that we traded up for Manziel was started by one reporter.

[Demi]

Amazing how reports are shrugged off when people disagree with the premise, but when we fleeced a team? Cha ching! Or when it works out in our favor ala Manziel, wow Browns are insane!

A sixth of our cap in a one dimensional running back who can't even stay on the field because he can't block half as well as most backups in this league, or catch the ball as well as almost every back up in this league? No thanks. But he's ours and oh my he's amazing, will he marry me? Give me a break. Move the guy. Get a first, a replacement, and anything else along with those two.

Or hang onto him for another few years, team does nothing, he hits free agency, and leaves. Just like Jared.

[PurpleKoolaid]

Some fans are going to have to realize that we can no longer afford AD in his declining years (unless he reconstructs his contract). We could pick up really good RBs early on if that's what we need to do. It will be impossible to replace AD. But we cant screw the pouch on this deal because every single Viking fan loves him. And if Dallas wants to overpay, so be it.

[Mothman]

Just like the rumor that we traded up for Manziel was started by one reporter.

Apples and oranges.

There's a difference between a reporter breaking a story first and other reporters following up on it and confirming it with their own sources and a reporter posting a rumor on Bleacher Report and others literally just reporting on that specific rumor.

Maybe the "trade for Manziel" reports aren't accurate but there are some major, clearly well-connected NFL reporters with good track records reporting them and that lends them credibility.

[Webbfann]

Apples and oranges.

There's a difference between a reporter breaking a story first and other reporters following up on it and confirming it with their own sources and a reporter posting a rumor on Bleacher Report and others literally just reporting on that specific rumor.

Maybe the "trade for Manziel" reports aren't accurate but there are some major, clearly well-connected NFL reporters with good track records reporting them and that lends them credibility.

I haven't seen anyone report it except Breer, and another reporter who reported what Breer said. Maybe you have some seen it. I still haven't seen definitive evidence from a named, quoted Viking source that we traded up for Manziel or that he was our #1 target. There is some evidence pointing that direction, but still plenty of reason (IMO) to be skeptical of jumping to that conclusion. There is not proof beyond a reasonable doubt.

[Mothman]

I haven't seen anyone report it except Breer, and another reporter who reported what Breer said. Maybe you have some seen it.

Jay Glazer broke the story and Peter King wrote about it the other day. There's a link to the latter in the "Vikes wanted Manziel" thread.

I still haven't seen definitive evidence from a named, quoted Viking source that we traded up for Manziel or that he was our #1 target.

... and you probably won't but I don't want to derail this thread into a discussion about the non-trade because there's already a thread for that topic.

[purplereign1]

If we did trade AD, the question is what would be the right price? Something similar to the RG3 trade or more?

I've been a Vikings fan for 38 years. I do love what AD has done for us, but you are way off base on his trade value. I think at this point in his career and with his salary we would be real lucky to get one first round pick for him.

[purplereign1]

The fact of the matter is that Peterson's value too high to our team, and not high enough on the trade market to make any logical sense that we would or could trade him.

Every time this comes up, people point out his age, position and salary as reasons that the Vikings would be willing to part with him. But in order to part with him, another team would have to inherit his age, position and salary as well as give up draft picks. If you think it doesn't make sense to keep a 30 year old running back who makes 15 million a year, then why on earth do you think any team would be willing to give up premium draft picks for one?

It only takes one team that feels it's an impact player away from the superbowl.

[purplereign1]

I said yes if price is right. He's fun to watch but painful to listen to, and I don't think he needs to retire a vike although I'd be perfectly fine with it if he does. OTOH I'd be tempted to take any reasonable offer if Ponder goes with him too.

That may actually cost us a draft pick.

[PurpleKoolaid]

I wonder what would happen if AD was asked to restructure. I figure he has about 3 years more of being the best RB in the NFL, and one of the most feared guys with the ball in his hands. Would he take a huge pay cut for a chance to get to a SB while he is godlike? So we could afford to beef up our secondary? I think I read some where that he s fairly frugal with his money, but maybe that means he wants to make every penny he can. With this whole Zimmer/Norv craze, Patterson, AD and Teddy on the field at the same time....a man can dream...

[Slick Rick]

Amazing how reports are shrugged off when people disagree with the premise, but when we fleeced a team? Cha ching! Or when it works out in our favor ala Manziel, wow Browns are insane!

Yeah, this is basically what you do in every thread. You berate people for ever believing anything that Rick Spielman, or anything else that isn't smearing the Vikings. You're one of the guys who was doubting Spielman for "promising" not to trade Percy Harvin because he had "no plans" to trade him. You're the guy who was sitting there criticizing people for getting hyped up when we signed Favre in '09. Or maybe your irrational hatred of Spielman hadn't kicked in at that point. Either way, dude, we get it. You think you're a real bright light because you "question everything you hear", even though in reality you don't question it, you've simply made your mind up to have a negative opinion about certain things. It'll be okay bud, allow yourself to enjoy it. It's just a hobby for you (and everyone else here I'm assuming), not a lifestyle.

A sixth of our cap in a one dimensional running back who can't even stay on the field because he can't block half as well as most backups in this league, or catch the ball as well as almost every back up in this league? No thanks. But he's ours and oh my he's amazing, will he marry me? Give me a break. Move the guy. Get a first, a replacement, and anything else along with those two.

Or hang onto him for another few years, team does nothing, he hits free agency, and leaves. Just like Jared.

If these two quotes were two separate posts, they would be 1 and 2 on the list of THE WORST COMMENTS IN THE HISTORY OF THE INTERNET. My God, what will you think of next. AP "one-dimensional"? Put down the crack pipe bro. No, seriously, put that stuff down. It's bad for you, and it kills you. More importantly, comments like these kill me. I remember when guys like you were sitting there complaining about his production back in '09, '10, '11. Name one running back who has produced more than Adrian Peterson over the last 2 years, 3 years, 4 years, 5 years, 6 years. I'll wait. Actually no, I won't. Adrian Peterson has been the most productive back in the league. You know what else guys like you do? They repeat things that JOURNALISTS and ACTORS say, like how running backs are expendable now.

Seriously though, worst post ever. YouTube comment posts included.

[jackal]

I know we could get a first for AP probably multiple picks ...


I don't want A.P. gone.. he has some years left IMO... When Cassel was slinging the ball to Jennings
and company last year the 9 nine box faded away slowly. With Patterson, Jennings, Rudolf, Simpson etc etc
and some consistency at QB and OL play we should tear teams up that try and stack the box

[Slick Rick]

I know we could get a first for AP probably multiple picks ...


I don't want A.P. gone.. he has some years left IMO... When Cassel was slinging the ball to Jennings
and company last year the 9 nine box faded away slowly. With Patterson, Jennings, Rudolf, Simpson etc etc
and some consistency at QB and OL play we should tear teams up that try and stack the box

After the down year that AP had? Come on.

AP is a great athlete. We've all witnessed it. If you weren't watching then you can be excused, but AP isn't in decline now and there's no evidence that he's declining as we speak. You can adhere to that thing about RBs at the age of 30 all you want, but exceptional players have exceptional possibilities. He's durable, he has always been very quick, and he usually didn't take a ton of punishing hits. There's no question that he still has plenty left in the tank, but he may need to adapt his game to his age. His body can't take the same punishment at this point, and I have never disagreed with that. What I've never understood was how some people could just think that it would be good to trade AP for what some think we could get for him right now. I wouldn't even take any proposals seriously if it didn't include multiple 1st round picks at this point, unless you're confident that he's over the hill.

People will be talking about this crap until Peterson retires though, and it's just really starting to get old already. If he has a career-ending injury next year, then I have no idea how you could have predicted that knowing only that some other RBs (obviously not AP, considering he's only 29) declined at the age of 30. That's a pretty inexact science.