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Re: Zimmer
Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2014 9:40 am
by Webbfann
Cin wrote:This team is going to be awesome. Old-school football has come to town. Good luck to you guys! I wish the best for Zimmer.
Thanks for the thought, but we don't want any old-school football. WE thought we sent that to Tampa Bay. Aggressive defense yes (I hope that's what you meant) and a potent offense, that's what we need.
Re: Zimmer
Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2014 10:18 am
by Webbfann
fiestavike wrote:
speak for yourself. I like old school football and thats exactly what norv turner brings on the offensive side of the ball. Power running and vertical passing.
Old school offense is run-first. Good luck with that in 2014.
Re: Zimmer
Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2014 10:27 am
by jackal
I love the hiring so far .. Zimmer got awesome comments from Bill Parcells and Bill Bellicheck
I think we will switch to hybrid 4-3 or maybe 3-4 defense (I'm hoping for 3-4 personally)
With Turner i think we will go for ball control and big shots down the field with Patterson and
company.
Re: Zimmer
Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2014 1:20 pm
by mmvikes
Thanks for the thought, but we don't want any old-school football. WE thought we sent that to Tampa Bay. Aggressive defense yes (I hope that's what you meant) and a potent offense, that's what we need.[/quote]
speak for yourself. I like old school football and thats exactly what norv turner brings on the offensive side of the ball. Power running and vertical passing.[/quote]
Old school offense is run-first. Good luck with that in 2014.[/quote]
passing leaders by yards this year;
Denver 1st
New England 10th
Seattle 26th
San Francisco 30th
rushing leaders this year
San Francisco 3rd
Seattle 4th
New England 10th
Denver 15th
Re: Zimmer
Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2014 1:22 pm
by mmvikes
fiestavike wrote:
speak for yourself. I like old school football and thats exactly what norv turner brings on the offensive side of the ball. Power running and vertical passing.
+1
Re: Zimmer
Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2014 1:28 pm
by S197
Old school, new school, give me a coach that can adapt ala New England. What makes BB such a great coach is his ability to flip the script. They were a high octane passing offense, then they switched to the dual TE's, and now they have a stout running game. Just when you think you have them pegged, he finds a new way to beat you. THAT is what I want in a coach and hopefully what we have, keep 'em on their toes.
Re: Zimmer
Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2014 2:03 pm
by Webbfann
mmvikes wrote:
passing leaders by yards this year;
Denver 1st
New England 10th
Seattle 26th
San Francisco 30th
rushing leaders this year
San Francisco 3rd
Seattle 4th
New England 10th
Denver 15th
Thanks, I was going to post that too. And it will be Denver or New England, both in the top 10 passing offenses, who win the SB.
Re: Zimmer
Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2014 2:17 pm
by King James
jackal wrote:I love the hiring so far .. Zimmer got awesome comments from Bill Parcells and Bill Bellicheck
I think we will switch to hybrid 4-3 or maybe 3-4 defense (I'm hoping for 3-4 personally)
With Turner i think we will go for ball control and big shots down the field with Patterson and
company.
This is what a hybrid 4-3 looks like.
Anybody care to make a mock depth chart on which of our current players could fit in this scheme?
Re: Zimmer
Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2014 2:51 pm
by PsyDanny
King James wrote:
This is what a hybrid 4-3 looks like.
Anybody care to make a mock depth chart on which of our current players could fit in this scheme?
Interesting.
Yes, would be nice to see a mock of our own players. Considering none of these are on our team, and in any case, we don't have two Fletcher Cox's.
Re: Zimmer
Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2014 2:58 pm
by Eli
Personnel-wise, that looks like a typical 3-4, particularly the down lineman. Big DEs who you hope will give you some pass rush and a huge nose tackle to eat up blockers. The OLBs are also fairly typical in that they're split between guys who will either primarily be pass rushers with (hopefully) the ability to cover TEs and guys who will mostly play in space, but also frequently rush the passer.
Re: Zimmer
Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2014 3:09 pm
by Eli
King James wrote:Anybody care to make a mock depth chart on which of our current players could fit in this scheme?
MIKE: Mauti, Cole
WiLL: Greenway, Hodges
LEO: Griffen
SAM: Anthony Barr

WDT: Floyd
SDT: Evans

SDE: Robison
Robison is probably a little undersized for the job. Griffen would spend almost all of his time lining up with his hand on the ground. I think they'd have to do much better than Evans for a NT and would definitely need a high draft pick LB to make this work.
Re: Zimmer
Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2014 6:28 pm
by Demi
Robison would be useless in a 34 (or this hybrid 43). We have no nose tackle, they couldn't even manage the same job in Frazier's 43 they'd be asked to do every down in that defense....it'd be a complete mess trying to make that work, even worse than sticking with a 43 which Zimmer ran most of his career.
Does anyone know what our new DC ran in his three stops?
Re: Zimmer
Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2014 6:40 pm
by King James
Demi wrote:Robison would be useless in a 34 (or this hybrid 43). We have no nose tackle, they couldn't even manage the same job in Frazier's 43 they'd be asked to do every down in that defense....it'd be a complete mess trying to make that work, even worse than sticking with a 43 which Zimmer ran most of his career.
Does anyone know what our new DC ran in his three stops?
I think he ran a 3-4 defense. But I heard he stunk as a coordinator whenever offered that position so im worried.
Re: Zimmer
Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 4:32 pm
by Eli
Maybe that's what the Vikings have been missing all these years - a psychic on the staff.
Re: Zimmer
Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 9:43 am
by dead_poet
Zimmer says good-bye to Cincinnati in open letter
In an open letter (
http://news.cincinnati.com/article/2014 ... /301200096) new Vikings coach Mike Zimmer said good-bye to the Bengals and Cincinnati, where he spent the past six seasons turning the Bengals' defense into one of the league's better and more consistent units.
To all of his former players, Zimmer wrote, "You should be proud of what this franchise has become" and "We proved a lot of people wrong, didn't we?"
We spoke to Bengals defensive back Chris Crocker last week. He told us Zimmer "absolutely loves proving people wrong."