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The question I have is his hands. We’ve heard rumors of “stone hands” before. If they can overcome that issue, what would really interest me is Webb returning kicks. His legs would make him dynamite in that role, assuming he can maintain ball security.

I agree with the take of him being the 199th pick. If they get anything out of him, it is a success.

mansquatch wrote:The question I have is his hands. We’ve heard rumors of “stone hands” before. If they can overcome that issue, what would really interest me is Webb returning kicks. His legs would make him dynamite in that role, assuming he can maintain ball security.

He seems like an awkward fit as a kick returner to me. He's nimble when avoiding pass rushers and running outside against LBs after coverage is already downfield but that's pretty different than what a kick returner faces. Does he have the vision, the acceleration, the short area quickness and sustained speed to excel in that role? It's about so much more than good hands and sustained speed.

It would be an interesting experiment. At his size, he'd be a load to bring down on returns.

Mothman wrote: He seems like an awkward fit as a kick returner to me. He's nimble when avoiding pass rushers and running outside against LBs after coverage is already downfield but that's pretty different than what a kick returner faces. Does he have the vision, the acceleration, the short area quickness and sustained speed to excel in that role? It's about so much more than good hands and sustained speed.

It would be an interesting experiment. At his size, he'd be a load to bring down on returns.

I actually think he'd probably make an excellent safety. You know, if you hopped into your Delorean and had him actually play the position in high school and/or college.

Great Scott! What CAN'T he do?!

dead_poet wrote:I actually think he'd probably make an excellent safety. You know, if you hopped into your Delorean and had him actually play the position in high school and/or college.

Great Scott! What CAN'T he do?!

LOL! He's a QB/WR/DE/KR/S/LB/TE and long snapper all rolled into one! You should see him long snap the ball!

He can even shoot lasers from his eyes, which is pretty cool.

As long as he is released after he tries being a WR. Some guys just dont cut it in the NFL, no matter how good they look on paper. IMO, Webb has been here too long. As has MBT, if the Vikes wouldnt even put him in over Webb in the playoff game last year. We need to get a young, un-athletic, QB in this years draft.

PurpleKoolaid wrote:As has MBT, if the Vikes wouldnt even put him in over Webb in the playoff game last year. We need to get a young, un-athletic, QB in this years draft.

I'm going to defend MBT a bit. And the coaching staff. There's no way you start a third stringer with no NFL experience into that situation (when you have a second-string guy with experience that has shown he can win in spot duty). You just don't. Do you realize the fervor such a move would've caused? How many reps did MBT even get as the third stringer throughout the season. That would've been SUCH an unprecedented and irresponsible move.

I'm still mildly intrigued with MBT. At least, I haven't seen him face plant yet.

PurpleKoolaid wrote:As long as he is released after he tries being a WR. Some guys just dont cut it in the NFL, no matter how good they look on paper. IMO, Webb has been here too long. As has MBT, if the Vikes wouldnt even put him in over Webb in the playoff game last year. We need to get a young, un-athletic, QB in this years draft.

I'm fine with replacing MBT with another QB but why on earth do they need an un-athletic QB?

Mothman wrote: I'm fine with replacing MBT with another QB but why on earth do they need an un-athletic QB?

Lol, I think its just his own way of saying you guys need to get a young pocket passer type guy.

I think dude may be forgetting though that Aaron Rodgers and Steve Young are (or in Steve Young's case, was.) both great in the pocket field generals, while at the same time exceptional at using there athleticism to escape the pocket and take off/buy more time to pass. (Which is, IMO the scariest kind of QB to try and defend.)

If he was 20 lbs heavier he'd probably make a great LB....but it is what it is.

I was serious about the KR thing. Everyone fear’s Webb’s Legs. On a KR/PR he has to make just a few guys miss and then the wheels take over. He has the gas to do that. To me the hands are the big question.

I’m just trying to figure out a way to put that athleticism and size to use. WR is the natural place, but I think he just doesn’t have the reps to make that happen. Seems like returning kicks would be a much easier transition, IMO.

mansquatch wrote:I was serious about the KR thing. Everyone fear’s Webb’s Legs. On a KR/PR he has to make just a few guys miss and then the wheels take over. He has the gas to do that. To me the hands are the big question.

To me, the ability to make people miss and his vision are even bigger questions but I knew you were serious and I wasn't mocking your suggestion, just having fun with
dead_poet's comment.

I’m just trying to figure out a way to put that athleticism and size to use. WR is the natural place, but I think he just doesn’t have the reps to make that happen. Seems like returning kicks would be a much easier transition, IMO.

Even if he can return kicks and punts, he'd have to be really good at it to justify a roster spot based on return ability alone.

Mothman wrote: I'm fine with replacing MBT with another QB but why on earth do they need an un-athletic QB?

It was partially a joke. I watched ESPN last night. There was a special on Brady. They showed him during his combine. Was kinda funny, except hes now a SB king and first vote HoF QB.

I just don't see his scrambling during broken plays translating to the speed and elusiveness to be a solid returner.

PurpleKoolaid wrote:It was partially a joke. I watched ESPN last night. There was a special on Brady. They showed him during his combine. Was kinda funny, except hes now a SB king and first vote HoF QB.

Ah, thanks for explaining...

PurpleKoolaid wrote: It was partially a joke. I watched ESPN last night. There was a special on Brady. They showed him during his combine. Was kinda funny, except hes now a SB king and first vote HoF QB.

Lol a SB king? I know he has 3 but how many of those did he win while his team WASNT tapng the other teams hand signals?