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Randy better not even think about retiring a Patriot.

He's a Viking--and he'll always be a Viking.

Remember when he played in New England and he got a touchdown and jumped in CheeseFree's arms on MNF? Um yeah. That says it all. For him to be a Patriot, playing in New England, and to jump in the stands into the arms of the ONE (random I might add..it was Den. vs. NE) Vikings fan--he loves Minnesota. He is a Viking.

I know he loves Syd--and Syd loves him--but that moment was symbolic. :D
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Why do any of you guys still revere this guy?

This guy was one of the biggest divas on and off the field, was he fantastic? Yes. But he was an immature fool who quit on his team. The guy could have been the best ever to live but a squandered it all away and got by on sheer abundance of talent alone. What would you think if AP quit on the team with time remaining? He wouldnt, because he has class, something Moss has sorely lacked for his entire career.

Also, my team almost foolishly traded away our other worldly QB to Oakland for him, talk about disaster averted....
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RandallioCobb18 wrote:Why do any of you guys still revere this guy?
...love is blind? :D
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allday1991 wrote:I think the comparisons between moss and Michael Jenkins are bit unfair also. Although product last year was similar moss had 12 less catches for the almost the same amount of yards and scored one more td and was targeted far less. Plus when would you ever see Michael Jenkins do this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T17WtJCqtw8
Oy vey... I wasn't saying Moss and Jenkins were similar receivers, just pointing out bottom line production. Moss averaged more per catch and had one more TD? Big deal! The point is that he's at the end of his career, he'd be a stopgap solution at best, he offers no upside for the future and the Vikings should be able to get similar or better production out of younger players that can actually help them in the future.

This "sign Moss" business is pure sentimentality. In 1998, Moss was an electrifying young receiver who took the league by storm. In 2013, he's a below average receiver who has no place in the rebuilding effort the Vikes have undertaken. Vikes fans, it's time to let go.
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Mothman wrote: Oy vey... I wasn't saying Moss and Jenkins were similar receivers, just pointing out bottom line production. Moss averaged more per catch and had one more TD? Big deal! The point is that he's at the end of his career, he'd be a stopgap solution at best, he offers no upside for the future and the Vikings should be able to get similar or better production out of younger players that can actually help them in the future.

This "sign Moss" business is pure sentimentality. In 1998, Moss was an electrifying young receiver who took the league by storm. In 2013, he's a below average receiver who has no place in the rebuilding effort the Vikes have undertaken. Vikes fans, it's time to let go.
We definitely need to let go lol. However I don't feel the Vikings have the current talent on the roster to do what moss could do for another year. It might be the fact I am not 100% sold on Simpson I hope he proves me wrong with a healthy season.
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Mothman wrote:Vikes fans, it's time to let go.
No. Don't want to. lol J/K. I get all of the arguments against signing him; believe me, I do. I just want to see him get 18 more receptions and break 1,000 for his career. There's no better place to do that than the place it all started--'Sota. And, as I said, he is still a red zone threat, which we need. And, I wouldn't mind having Moss and the Dome together for their last seasons. :) It's beautiful for the fans. It's all dreamland. I know. I know we are better off without him. I just love him, and it all makes sense in my heart. :D
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allday1991 wrote:We definitely need to let go lol. However I don't feel the Vikings have the current talent on the roster to do what moss could do for another year. It might be the fact I am not 100% sold on Simpson I hope he proves me wrong with a healthy season.
I hope so too and hopefully, by the time the draft is done, the WR talent on the roster will look better. Even if they add one rookie capable of stepping in and starting, they'd have Jennings, Wright, rookie, Simpson and... hopefully another good rookie or perhaps someone like Chris Summers, who spent last year on the practice squad.
MelanieMFunk wrote: No. Don't want to. lol J/K.
:lol: Just do it all at once, like ripping off a band-aid.
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Mothman wrote:
I hope so too and hopefully, by the time the draft is done, the WR talent on the roster will look better. Even if they add one rookie capable of stepping in and starting, they'd have Jennings, Wright, rookie, Simpson and... hopefully another good rookie or perhaps someone like Chris Summers, who spent last year on the practice squad.

I agree. As I said before, there is also the rebuilding method that Spielman and the Vikings are currently using, which shouldn't get sidetracked. They signed Jennings because there is still fuel left in the tank. Aside from him, the Vikings appear to be putting together a youthful WR corps that will only get better (and I'm including whoever they draft). At this point, Moss could be a stopgap that actually might impede the rebuilding process, mainly because his skills are no longer intact.

OTOH, if I had a time machine, you'd see a 1998 version of Moss on the team in the blink of an eye, not to mention Cris Carter as well. And I'd just love to see opposing teams play eight in the box against that. :D
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I remember I said this back on the Vikings.com message boards. I would love to have Moss back as well. Mainly because I want him to finish his career as a Viking. Despite what anyone says, the man is still effective. He still commands attention but for some reason the ball was not getting thrown his way as much in San Francisco.

His last stint as a Viking went bad because we had a coach who was starting to lose control from his players and decided to make an example out of Moss when it made a comment about some food. He didnt get waive for his play but because he said something about FOOD!!!! Moss still has a couple of years left in the tank and he could compliment Jennings and Peterson.

Unfortunately I dont see it happening either. I think the Vikings are going to get younger and draft a WR. I think Jennings will be the lone vet, mentoring the young WRs along the way.
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Ok. Thought about it. Makes no sense.
He is a shadow of his former self and after his tirades to get out from under Childress on his last stop here, there is no way the Vikings would consider it, even if he was more than a nostalgic signing and an older and slower version of himself.

I really wish he could have accomplished reaching 1,000 receptions in the past four seasons. But he couldn't manage that, and coming back for that -- that sort of stat padding -- is a shallow event.

His time in Minny has passed, and it's best just to remember the dynamic player that he was in those times.
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80 PurplePride 84 wrote: And Jake Reed. Hell I'd probably even take Matthew Hatchette over our current WRs. We can even throw in Chris Walsh for special teams!
You really dont think even an old version is better then Wright, Simpson, and Jennings? How much older is he then Jenings? Im so frigging sick of this attitude, where old Vikings should go out to pasture, and lets replace them with AJ Jefferson type. No way would Moss come back to this state, with Ponder as his QB, but thats besides the point. He would have been a good addition to our PATHETIC WR group. Even at 50 he would be. The fact is, people like Birk know when to get out of this state and go play for a real team. A team that can compete, with a smart HC and an owner that knows something about foortball. Moss almost did it. Twice. More power to him. He was an awesome WR. The best ive ever seen as a Viking fan and I loved CC.
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PurpleKoolaid wrote:You really dont think even an old version is better then Wright, Simpson, and Jennings? How much older is he then Jenings? Im so frigging sick of this attitude, where old Vikings should go out to pasture, and lets replace them with AJ Jefferson type. No way would Moss come back to this state, with Ponder as his QB, but thats besides the point. He would have been a good addition to our PATHETIC WR group. Even at 50 he would be. The fact is, people like Birk know when to get out of this state and go play for a real team. A team that can compete, with a smart HC and an owner that knows something about foortball. Moss almost did it. Twice. More power to him. He was an awesome WR. The best ive ever seen as a Viking fan and I loved CC.
No, I honestly don't think that the present Randy Moss is better than Greg Jennings and maybe not as explosive as Jarius Wright. Just my opinion. I wouldn't be outraged if the Vikings signed Moss but I'd wonder about their reasons.

That's in no way a reflection on how I viewed Randy when he still had his skills. As Deion Sanders said, Moss is the kind of guy that made you stay late at practices if you were an opposing DB. I think Moss once was the most spectacular WR that the NFL has ever seen.
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Jarius Wright with Ponder: 7 games played 1 started 310 yards 2 TD
Randy Moss with Super Bowl team: 16 games played 2 started 434 yards 3 TD

So yeah. I don't think he's that much better. Much less any other 20 year older geriatric you named. I know fans like to live in fantasy worlds where their favorite players are good forever, but they aren't, they get old, and they break down. And they end up slow, soft, and desperate. Just looking for a pay check. Like Randy.
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losperros wrote: No, I honestly don't think that the present Randy Moss is better than Greg Jennings and maybe not as explosive as Jarius Wright. Just my opinion. I wouldn't be outraged if the Vikings signed Moss but I'd wonder about their reasons.

That's in no way a reflection on how I viewed Randy when he still had his skills. As Deion Sanders said, Moss is the kind of guy that made you stay late at practices if you were an opposing DB. I think Moss once was the most spectacular WR that the NFL has ever seen.
I was quoting 80Purple trying to be funny and saying why not get Jake Reed etc back. Hes trying to make a point of how stupid it is even to mention Moss playing. My point is our QB and WR sucks, and Moss could help improve that a little. But I doubt Ponder could even air it out to the old version of Moss n a sideline route. Hed throw that int hes so good at, or maybe a rainbow pass that would be 30 yards too short. But then maybe Cassell could.
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PurpleKoolaid wrote:You really dont think even an old version is better then Wright, Simpson, and Jennings? How much older is he then Jenings?
He's 6 years older than Jennings, who is essentially still in the prime of his career (sheesh, when did 30 become the new 35 among NFL fans?).
No way would Moss come back to this state, with Ponder as his QB, but thats besides the point. He would have been a good addition to our PATHETIC WR group. Even at 50 he would be.
No, he'd just be a nostalgic addition that would please all the Vikes fans who can't seem to let go of him, even though he hasn't been a significant force in the NFL for years.
The fact is, people like Birk know when to get out of this state and go play for a real team.
I sometimes wonder why you don't go root for another team as well. I mean no offense but seriously, you spend way more time spitting venom at the Vikes than expressing any enthusiasm for the team. It often seems like you don't really enjoy being a Vikings fan at all. As a lifelong Vikes fan, I understand that they can be a frustrating team to support but getting all worked up because they're not interested in signing an over-the-hill player like Randy Moss, especially after his childish behavior got him shipped out of town twice, just seems a little silly.
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