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Texas Vike wrote:"A clutch gene with a hint of tenacity"?! Good lord these writers just try way too hard!
He also has a dash of footwork issues, a sprinkle of character concerns and just a hint of a questionable release. ;)

Seriously, like all of the QBs in this draft, he's imperfect but he's an interesting prospect.
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Mothman wrote: He also has a dash of footwork issues, a sprinkle of character concerns and just a hint of a questionable release. ;)

Seriously, like all of the QBs in this draft, he's imperfect but he's an interesting prospect.

In the couple of live games I watched him in last season I saw a dash of game manager thrown into the mix with a recessive gene of being in a favorable system and surrounded by top notch talent, especially WRs. 8)

But more seriously, I see him as similar to Bortles regarding body type, though less mobile and with a better arm. If he were healthy he'd be considered among the top prospects.
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Texas Vike wrote:In the couple of live games I watched him in last season I saw a dash of game manager thrown into the mix with a recessive gene of being in a favorable system and surrounded by top notch talent, especially WRs. 8)
LOL! Those WRs might be best described as a dominant genes. ;) They were outstanding.
But more seriously, I see him as similar to Bortles regarding body type, though less mobile and with a better arm. If he were healthy he'd be considered among the top prospects.
You're probably right. I see him as one of 6 or 7 QBs in this draft that could succeed in the NFL and I honestly have no idea at all how to figure out which of them (if any) will actually make it. His size, arm strength and experience working with Cameron in a pro style all give him a shot.

I'm increasingly inclined to believe where these QBs land and how much time they're given to develop will have as much to do with their success or failure at the next level as anything else. The Vikings might be a good situation for Mettenberger.
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Mothman wrote: LOL! Those WRs might be best described as a dominant genes. ;) They were outstanding.
You're probably right. I see him as one of 6 or 7 QBs in this draft that could succeed in the NFL and I honestly have no idea at all how to figure out which of them (if any) will actually make it. His size, arm strength and experience working with Cameron in a pro style all give him a shot.

I'm increasingly inclined to believe where these QBs land and how much time they're given to develop will have as much to do with their success or failure at the next level as anything else. The Vikings might be a good situation for Mettenberger.

I didn't know this little bit of juicy information about him:
A top high school recruit, Mettenberger decided to stay in-state at Georgia (also where his mother works), but his stay in Athens was short lived after his March 2010 arrest. He was dismissed from the program in April after lying about the incident to Bulldogs head coach Mark Richt and given every chance to reconcile. After spending the 2011 season at Butler (Kan.) Community College, he enrolled at LSU in 2011 and became the starter the past two seasons
I wonder if the Vikes' have character concerns about him.
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Mettenberger grabbed a boobie in a bar. Not exactly date rape.
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Texas Vike wrote:I didn't know this little bit of juicy information about him:
I wonder if the Vikes' have character concerns about him.
I do too. The incident you referred to is what i was was also referring to with that " a sprinkle of character concerns" comment.

You can read about it all in detail here:

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/c ... back_N.htm

There's a good article about him as a prospect here:
http://optimumscouting.com/draft/articl ... eaded.html

Both articles are long.

I'm still reading up on him but I get the impression the incident that got him booted from the Georgia program was one of those foolish mistakes a kid makes and that he's matured and avoided further incidents since then.
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Eli wrote:Mettenberger grabbed a boobie in a bar. Not exactly date rape.
Sounds like Big Ben-like tendencies.
Mettenberger signed with Georgia in 2009 out of Oconee County High in Watkinsville, Ga., and was in a hotly contested starting quarterback race with Aaron Murray and Logan Gray (who ended up transferring to Colorado). But in March of 2010, Mettenberger was arrested outside of a local bar after allegedly grabbing the breasts and buttocks of a woman, and also was charged with underage consumption and possession of alcohol, possessing fake identification and disorderly conduct-obstruction. He ultimately pleaded guilty to two counts of misdemeanor sexual battery, the alcohol-related charges were dropped, and he was sentenced to two concurrent, 12-month probationary periods under the state of Georgia's first-offender act. He also was ordered to pay $2,000 in fines and 40 hours of community service.
Perhaps he's learned from the experience, as he states.
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Texas Vike wrote: Sounds like Big Ben-like tendencies.
Ummm, sure. :roll:
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Mothman wrote: I do too. The incident you referred to is what i was was also referring to with that " a sprinkle of character concerns" comment.

You can read about it all in detail here:

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/c ... back_N.htm

There's a good article about him as a prospect here:
http://optimumscouting.com/draft/articl ... eaded.html

Both articles are long.

I'm still reading up on him but I get the impression the incident that got him booted from the Georgia program was one of those foolish mistakes a kid makes and that he's matured and avoided further incidents since then.
Ah, now I see what you meant.

Thanks for the links. I will read the articles when I get a chance. Hopefully he truly has learned from his mistake; he's a promising second tier QB prospect.
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Eli wrote: Ummm, sure. :roll:

Perhaps you'd like to send your daughter out to the bars with him?
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Texas Vike wrote: Perhaps you'd like to send your daughter out to the bars with him?
Big Ben or Mettenberger? There's a huge difference. Roethlisberger is a scumbag who got away with much more serious crimes by paying off his accusers.
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Ugh. Great. I cannot wait for Zach Mettenberger to become the next franchise QB after being drafted in the infamous second round.
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HardcoreVikesFan wrote:Ugh. Great. I cannot wait for Zach Mettenberger to become the next franchise QB after being drafted in the infamous second round.
It seems unlikely that the Vikes have decided to give Tony Pauline or his sources the inside track regarding their draft plans so you may not have much to worry about.
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Mothman wrote: It seems unlikely that the Vikes have decided to give Tony Pauline or his sources the inside track regarding their draft plans so you may not have much to worry about.
I understand that.

What irritates me is that Pauline's notion is pretty much in line with what we have seen from the team in the past decade or so. Time and time again we have seen this team over-rank certain players. Zach Mettenberger is far from the best QB in this draft. His mechanics need work, he tends to lock on to certain guys, and he is coming off an ACL injury. When the was the last time LSU produced a good quarterback? Les Miles' offensive scheme is a good one, but it really is tailored to the QB. It is why we have seen every QB coming out of LSU not being able to translate anything in the NFL.

I am not an NFL GM, but I don't see how a front office could sit there and think that Zach Mettenberger is the best QB in this draft for them over guys like Derek Carr, Teddy Bridgewater, Johhny Manziel, and Blake Bortles. I mean, if you are sitting there at number eight and you have Teddy Bridgewater/Johnny Manziel/Derek Carr on the board I don't see how you could pass on either of them for the hope that you can potentially draft Zach Mettenberger later.

I am sick and tired of the crap we have trotted at quarterback over the years. It is time to get this position right for a change. Drafting Zach Mettenberger isn't the right step in accomplishing this.
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Google around a bit on the subject of Mettenberger. I'll bet you find half a dozen references to teams picking him up in the 2nd or 3rd round. I just read one speculating that, exactly like the Vikings, the Jaguars pass on a QB in the 1st round and like Mettenberger in the 2nd. Of course, if that happens, they'll beat the Vikings to the punch by five draft spots.
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