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I think we'll have to wait for coaches film. Can't see where Ford and his defender was (he motioned slot right) but from this pic, Rudolph did look open.S197 wrote:I like the way Teddy is seeing the field and going through progressions. When he rolled right and found McKinnon all the way over to his left seems to indicate he's seeing the whole field really well. I don't know which announcers you guys had but out here it was the Raiders. They were saying Rudolph was open on a seam route on the 2nd series but TB didn't see him. Couldn't see it on tv but maybe on coaches tape that some subscribe to has it. Otherwise I thought he did well other than a few throws that were behind the receiver early on.
Solid Investments:
Matt Asiata. Who is this guy catching passes out of the backfield and darting all over the place? Surely it can't be Matt "three yards and a cloud of nothing else" Asiata, can it? He had a better game catching the ball than half of the Vikings' wide receiving corps on Saturday.
Jeff Locke. At least one Vikings kicker is having a good preseason! All Locke does is pin opponents inside their own 20 yard line. Let's hope that Locke keeps kicking like this all year.
Junk Bonds:
Run blocking. Jerick McKinnon had nowhere to go for all but one of his carries. The team averaged only 2.7 yards per rush. Not even Adrian Peterson is going to get many yards behind the run blocking that was on display most of the night.
Cordarrelle Patterson. The bad interception that Hill threw seemed to be his fault. Patterson was pointing to his chest while walking off the field which means he probably ran the wrong route. He also didn't get to return any kickoffs, which seems like the only way he's going to make an impact at this rate.
Trae Waynes. No, I'm not calling him a bust by putting him in this section. And he did almost have an interception. Sadly, that one didn't really count because it was thrown by Christian Ponder and nearly picking off Christian Ponder can usually happen by accident. But overall he played pretty poorly again, even after getting less to do by the coaching staff this week. It sucks that the 11th overall pick is probably going to be a project this year.
Buy:
Finally seeing "The Bru's Brothers" in together at linebacker. Anthony Barr and Eric Kendricks have a chance to be the foundation of a very good linebacking corps in the coming years, so it was good to see them on the field together. (Especially in the nickel package!)
Cordarrelle Patterson. The bad interception that Hill threw seemed to be his fault. Patterson was pointing to his chest while walking off the field which means he probably ran the wrong route. He also didn't get to return any kickoffs, which seems like the only way he's going to make an impact at this rate.
I guess Eric Thompson missed the TD last week.But barring injury, based on what he has shown, he isn't likely to get a ton of snaps as a receiver this season. I think that may have been Thompson's unwritten assumption.Mothman wrote:
Maybe... I read (or perhaps mis-read) it as another crack about Patterson since the media (pro and amateur) have been making them all summer.fiestavike wrote: But barring injury, based on what he has shown, he isn't likely to get a ton of snaps as a receiver this season. I think that may have been Thompson's unwritten assumption.
It could be. I know some of my opinions on Patterson have been taken that way.Mothman wrote:
Maybe... I read (or perhaps mis-read) it as another crack about Patterson since the media (pro and amateur) have been taking them all summer.
If he's healthy and the Vikings don't give him many more opportunities than that to make an impact this season, they should go looking for a new offensive coordinator for 2016 because that would be inexcusable. Seriously, if Turner proves to be that inflexible with his personnel and his depth chart, the Vikes can do better.fiestavike wrote: It could be. I know some of my opinions on Patterson have been taken that way.
As I've indicated, Patterson has immense potential but as of right now I think he has very little value to this team, in part because of the depth at WR in front of him.
I just don't think 1-2 kickoff returns per game...which is probably how many won't go out the back of the endzone, give Patterson the potential to make much impact this year.
Strong praise!dead_poet wrote:Have we discussed how not awful Kalil has looked so far?
This is where we really disagree. Turner is among the 3-4 most valuable members of the Vikings organization IMO (FAR more valuable than Cordarelle Patterson will ever be). I don't think its inexcusable or inflexible to refrain from asking 10 other guys to change how they play in order to accommodate 1 guy who can't do his job. Everybody else can play within the system and be where they need to be. Putting a guy out there who can't do that is going to hurt the offense. Patterson is just a gadget player and a decoy right now. If they use him as more than that before he lives up to the minimum performance standard, THAT would be an error. This offense is starting to function like a machine. The back foot hits and the ball is out. If Patterson can't consistently be where he needs to be in order to accommodate that (and so far he can't) he has no business being on the field.Mothman wrote: If he's healthy and the Vikings don't give him many more opportunities than that to make an impact this season, they should go looking for a new offensive coordinator for 2016 because that would be inexcusable. Seriously, if Turner proves to be that inflexible with his personnel and his depth chart, the Vikes can do better.
I really have no worries about Rudy or Wallace. Rudy has looked pretty good the last two games and Wallace is Wallace. I truly feel that Turner just hasnt opened the playbook enough to say so this preseason. You don't see Teddy stretching the field a lot and Wallace and CJ (excluding this game) have been non-existent all preseason. I think that is due to Turner not wanting to reveal a lot in the preseason.PurpleKoolaid wrote:The best thing about the game, Teddy. It is nice to see a guy improve every weak. Even with all the drops, his stats are awesome. You can see him gaining confidence.
Tom Johnson continues to get better and better. His name is mentioned all the time. I dont think I have heard Floyd's or Joseph's name yet. Is Robison hurt again? People been making excuses for him for a few years, his times has past im afraid.
CP, Wallace, and kyle are invisible. Luckily CJ is as good as I expected. They may have to keep Theilen because, every once in a while, he runs a good route. Diggs shows such skill anytime he is on the field. Would be nice to see him take CP's spot on the roster. And Returning kicks.
Our LB's are looking pretty darn good. I havent thought that in a long time. Although, overall, I wasnt impressed with the D. Or the Oline. Did we have any rushing yards? AD is good, but even he needs some blocking. Someone had mentioned having Asiata as a FB. I love that idea. He can still be used for goaline and some screens.
Captain, Waynes, and Walsh are huge disappointments to me. Yeah, I can say say im worried about Waynes even after a few pre-season games. And yeah I didnt like the pick, or that he was chosen first overall, or that he was even the best CB in my eyes. I hope to god im wrong. I want a stud corner. Please please please, dont feel the need to remind me hes just a rookie or to remember how Rhodes was. Please.
Injury bug?MrPurplenGold wrote:I've got 5 concerns for this team going into 2015 based on the preseason games we've seen so far.
5. Injuries: seems like the injury bug is really biting the Vikings this year which could derail any hopes of the playoffs.
fiestavike wrote:This is where we really disagree. Turner is among the 3-4 most valuable members of the Vikings organization IMO (FAR more valuable than Cordarelle Patterson will ever be). I don't think its inexcusable or inflexible to refrain from asking 10 other guys to change how they play in order to accommodate 1 guy who can't do his job.
