Vikings QB Kellen Mond test positive for COVID; three QBs including Kirk Cousins expected to miss practice

[StumpHunter]

anyone who doesnt understand the the OL is the foundation of any championship team just knows nothing about football.
You wont win a super bowl without a good to great QB and a superior OL....period.
Spielman has failed to build an even mediocre OL his whole career and nothing has changed.
We have a middling to good QB, No OL, great RB, and this is exactly the same useless mix of talent that this team has fed us for over a decade....it leads nowhere.......

The average pass blocking rank of SB winning teams since 2006 is 16.5.

During that time there have been 4 pass blocking lines in the bottom 5, including the 32nd best pass blocking line in 2011.

There have only been 5 top 10 pass blocking Olines to win it all, and only 2 top 5 ones (Packers and Eagles).

PFF grades aren't perfect, but they aren't so bad they are grading a good offensive line in the bottom 5.

[chicagopurple]

i would expect if they rank low on pass they were high ranked for run, although in todays game the running game is being actively thwarted by rule changes that favor an imbalanced offense that favors the passing game.

[808vikingsfan]

Lagging In COVID Vaccinations, MN Vikings Bring In Infectious Disease Expert Dr. Osterholm To Talk To Players

Sounds like a PR thing but whatever works. There's still a few weeks left before the start of the season. I'm hoping this team can turn it around and start taking this pandemic seriously.

Hawaii is getting slammed right now with the variant and is causing things to shutdown again. Over 90% of the hospitalizations are unvaccinated and are tying up all the ICU resources in all of the hospitals on the island.

I would be happy if the team sat the unvaccinated for the entire season. Would send such a strong message. Cousins, Cook, Thielen, Smith, Richardson. Sit em all.

[RandyMoss84]

Lagging In COVID Vaccinations, MN Vikings Bring In Infectious Disease Expert Dr. Osterholm To Talk To Players

Sounds like a PR thing but whatever works. There's still a few weeks left before the start of the season. I'm hoping this team can turn it around and start taking this pandemic seriously.

Hawaii is getting slammed right now with the variant and is causing things to shutdown again. Over 90% of the hospitalizations are unvaccinated and are tying up all the ICU resources in all of the hospitals on the island.

I would be happy if the team sat the unvaccinated for the entire season. Would send such a strong message. Cousins, Cook, Thielen, Smith, Richardson. Sit em all.

Do not hold your breath on that, as long the unvaccinated players follows protcols, they will be fine and as for a strong message, they probably would retire or demand a trade to a team that will accept players that are not vaccinated than sit out for the entire season, it is their body and their choice so you need to accept it and move on and if you can not do that then it is best for you to leave the board and become a Packers fan

[808vikingsfan]

Lagging In COVID Vaccinations, MN Vikings Bring In Infectious Disease Expert Dr. Osterholm To Talk To Players

Sounds like a PR thing but whatever works. There's still a few weeks left before the start of the season. I'm hoping this team can turn it around and start taking this pandemic seriously.

Hawaii is getting slammed right now with the variant and is causing things to shutdown again. Over 90% of the hospitalizations are unvaccinated and are tying up all the ICU resources in all of the hospitals on the island.

I would be happy if the team sat the unvaccinated for the entire season. Would send such a strong message. Cousins, Cook, Thielen, Smith, Richardson. Sit em all.

Do not hold your breath on that, as long the unvaccinated players follows protcols, they will be fine and as for a strong message, they probably would retire than sit out for the entire season, it is their body and their choice so you need to accept it and move on

The unvaccinated right now are taking up all the ICU resources. They're putting all the first responders and their families at risk.
Their decision not to be vaccinated IS affecting others so you cannot say "their body their choice", not in a pandemic.

Selfish thinking.

[RandyMoss84]

Do not hold your breath on that, as long the unvaccinated players follows protcols, they will be fine and as for a strong message, they probably would retire than sit out for the entire season, it is their body and their choice so you need to accept it and move on

The unvaccinated right now are taking up all the ICU resources. They're putting all the first responders and their families at risk.
Their decision not to be vaccinated IS affecting others so you cannot say "their body their choice", not in a pandemic.

Selfish thinking.

You failed to realize that even vaccinated people can still get covid but it is their body and their choice, you can not force people to get the vaccine

[chicagopurple]

what an absurd statement to claim that unvaccinated fools will "be ok" if they follow protocol! That is blatantly untrue. These guys clearly dont take the pandemic seriously. They are sending their kids to school. Their spouses are likely just as foolish and unvaccinated too. They will get exposed, they will bring covid through the Vikes Org. Even if they dont catch it, they will show up as exposed and go into protocol over and over and every player they are around will then also be quarantined. Once cold and flu season hits things will be unworkable for the unvaccinated. We are seeing unvaccinated people coming into our ER ever day all day and they all act sooo surprised when we tell them that they are Covid positive and that is why they cant breathe...they go on and on about how careful they were, how its "impossible" that their illness is Covid.....Natural selection at work.....

[RandyMoss84]

what an absurd statement to claim that unvaccinated fools will "be ok" if they follow protocol! That is blatantly untrue. These guys clearly dont take the pandemic seriously. They are sending their kids to school. Their spouses are likely just as foolish and unvaccinated too. They will get exposed, they will bring covid through the Vikes Org. Even if they dont catch it, they will show up as exposed and go into protocol over and over and every player they are around will then also be quarantined. Once cold and flu season hits things will be unworkable for the unvaccinated. We are seeing unvaccinated people coming into our ER ever day all day and they all act sooo surprised when we tell them that they are Covid positive and that is why they cant breathe...they go on and on about how careful they were, how its "impossible" that their illness is Covid.....Natural selection at work.....

That is just your opinion

[fiestavike]

There are so many things that people do, or don't do, that effect others negatively. It does seem that we are on the verge of reconceptualizing what freedom means in the West, and that reconceptualization will take us beyond our inheritance of common law and the bill of rights. Things are changing. Arguments about covid vaccination are going to break down along the lines of people who have different concepts of freedom, and different ideas for how we should conceive of it, or re-conceive it. Anyone, on any side of that debate, who is so deep into their own conceptualization of what that means, what it should look like, that they can't see the other persons perspective, is going to be insufferable.

Maybe that's all something we should leave behind and try to get back to football, or maybe its so much more important to people than football is, that until one side is victorious and normalized, and the other side squashed and marginalized, we won't really be able to get back to football. From a macro level, it's all a pretty fascinating phenomenon of cultural transformation taking place before our eyes over the last couple years. From a moralizing perspective, it's as insufferable (and as inevitable?) as Jerry Falwell or some televangelist telling people they are going to hell. If the 'new civil religion' seems to make people into as a big of pricks as the 'old civil religion', then what the hell is the point or trading the one for the other?

[chicagopurple]

what an absurd statement to claim that unvaccinated fools will "be ok" if they follow protocol! That is blatantly untrue. These guys clearly dont take the pandemic seriously. They are sending their kids to school. Their spouses are likely just as foolish and unvaccinated too. They will get exposed, they will bring covid through the Vikes Org. Even if they dont catch it, they will show up as exposed and go into protocol over and over and every player they are around will then also be quarantined. Once cold and flu season hits things will be unworkable for the unvaccinated. We are seeing unvaccinated people coming into our ER ever day all day and they all act sooo surprised when we tell them that they are Covid positive and that is why they cant breathe...they go on and on about how careful they were, how its "impossible" that their illness is Covid.....Natural selection at work.....

That is just your opinion

Sorry, buddy, but I have been working in the hospital treating people since this pandemic started. Putting my life at risk daily. I have 2 decades of training and almost 3 decades of experience in medicine. My "opinion" is actually medical fact and experience. Non-Vaccinators are now the main problem behind this pandemic. It is a Confederacy of Dunces. 99% of the people dying and in the ICUs are the unvaccinated. Simple undeniable fact. Be part of the solution and get your damn vaccines.....dont BE the problem.

[RandyMoss84]

That is just your opinion

Sorry, buddy, but I have been working in the hospital treating people since this pandemic started. Putting my life at risk daily. I have 2 decades of training and almost 3 decades of experience in medicine. My "opinion" is actually medical fact and experience. Non-Vaccinators are now the main problem behind this pandemic. It is a Confederacy of Dunces. 99% of the people dying and in the ICUs are the unvaccinated. Simple undeniable fact. Be part of the solution and get your damn vaccines.....dont BE the problem.

I doubt you were treating people in a hospital, I am sure you are a janitor cleaning in the hospital, nice try though!

[fiestavike]

That is just your opinion

Sorry, buddy, but I have been working in the hospital treating people since this pandemic started. Putting my life at risk daily. I have 2 decades of training and almost 3 decades of experience in medicine. My "opinion" is actually medical fact and experience. Non-Vaccinators are now the main problem behind this pandemic. It is a Confederacy of Dunces. 99% of the people dying and in the ICUs are the unvaccinated. Simple undeniable fact. Be part of the solution and get your damn vaccines.....dont BE the problem.

It's quite possible that your view is factual and that your view is jaded by those facts. Sort of like a cop buddy of mine who views everywhere as 'kind of a bad area', because his experience of each of those areas is of getting a call there during a crime, or someone's worst moment. I don't discount your experience, but I also happen to know many nurses and people in the medical profession in my circle, including an epidemiologist, and mostly, they view the entire situation as being much less alarming, and much less clear cut. They don't experience it as "putting their life at risk daily" but as treating people with a virus that they have also had, and recovered from, just like the vast majority of other folks who have had the virus. Of course, they see and are surrounded by the worst cases, but they haven't lost sight of the fact that those worst cases are exactly that; worst cases.

I think if we could tone down the moralizing we could probably have much more informative, less combative, and less politicized discussion about all this...or not.

[chicagopurple]

A list of my coworkers that have died while serving fellow US citizens who are ill: https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/947304

This is as of 3/2021 so there are far more then the 3,000 listed here. I personally have lost healthy friends, co-workers family members, and fellow doctors and nurses from covid. Still, we go back to work every day and expose ourselves to the vax/mask deniers who knowing continue to create this mess.
As of today, our regional hospitals are beginning to get completely full ICUs in Tx MS, AK etc shipping us patients because their ICUs are overflowing. Soon we too will be full and will turn their patients away. 99% of these patients are unvaccinated. There is no controversy. Covid began as a natural Disaster, Now it is Natural Selection.

[VikingsVictorious]

A list of my coworkers that have died while serving fellow US citizens who are ill: https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/947304

This is as of 3/2021 so there are far more then the 3,000 listed here. I personally have lost healthy friends, co-workers family members, and fellow doctors and nurses from covid. Still, we go back to work every day and expose ourselves to the vax/mask deniers who knowing continue to create this mess.
As of today, our regional hospitals are beginning to get completely full ICUs in Tx MS, AK etc shipping us patients because their ICUs are overflowing. Soon we too will be full and will turn their patients away. 99% of these patients are unvaccinated. There is no controversy. Covid began as a natural Disaster, Now it is Natural Selection.

Chicagopurple I feel your pain. It is really ridiculous at this point people refusing the vaccine and spreading the Virus when we could possibly have it under control. I'm not going to hate on those who aren't vaccinated. I'm going to feel sorry for them. I get the hating side though.

[fiestavike]

A list of my coworkers that have died while serving fellow US citizens who are ill: https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/947304

This is as of 3/2021 so there are far more then the 3,000 listed here. I personally have lost healthy friends, co-workers family members, and fellow doctors and nurses from covid. Still, we go back to work every day and expose ourselves to the vax/mask deniers who knowing continue to create this mess.
As of today, our regional hospitals are beginning to get completely full ICUs in Tx MS, AK etc shipping us patients because their ICUs are overflowing. Soon we too will be full and will turn their patients away. 99% of these patients are unvaccinated. There is no controversy. Covid began as a natural Disaster, Now it is Natural Selection.

Of course, no one should be diminishing the significance those deaths, or the people who survive but with more serious longterm health consequences. Obviously, Covid is a real thing and people will die from covid. And of course, if we take all these numbers at face value, they are very emotionally impactful as each of those lives is precious (even those who were unvaccinated), but put in context, there are 22 million health care workers in the USA. I'll let you do the math.

At the end of the day, we are going to have to put on our big boy pants and stop running around like chicken little, because even once the vaccine is mandated and we get close to 100 percent vaccination, we will still have new variants, waning efficiency of the vaccine, the need for boosters, and thousands of people dying from covid. Partly, I think the hope that we can 'end' this drives a kind of moral fanaticism, but reality is going to smack that hope in the face.