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Orion wrote:We love you Adrian!

-every Vikings fan

Put a d at the end of love.

I wonder if now Goodell is going to try and save his job by giving Peterson no chance to play this year. I personally would rather see the biggest fine ever given, and then take the fine and give it to a child abuse charity. Something that would even make a millionaire wince.

Purpnation wrote: Yea, right. Who cares if a 300LB man beats 5 year olds with sticks, what troll job!

This is a touchy enough subject without the hyperbole and commentary quoted above. Please, everybody; no taunting, baiting, inflammatory comments, etc. in this thread. A thread like this is basically a tinderbox so we don't need sparks flying.

There is a solution to this problem But, I would bet the NFL will drop the ball just like always. Peterson has already stated that he knows what he did was wrong. He has also stated that since the incident he has had classes/help on parenting and disciplining his children. And the court wants him to take more. Now, if the NFL was smart they would use this. Make a commercial with AP stating that even though he was disciplining his children the way he was, he now understands that in this day and age it is not acceptable. And that there are other ways to discipline children. Non-violent ways. And were to learn or get more information. That would do more than any punishment they ever deal out. Again, the NFL won't do it because they are reactive, not proactive.

Mothman wrote: I wonder how risky it really is... almost any hit they would take from it would likely be a short-term hit (which, I suppose could still be costly) but this Star Tribune poll suggests that a vast majority of fans likely want Peterson back on the field:

http://www.startribune.com/polls/281481 ... 7&vote.y=9

Sponsors are mainly concerned with what the public thinks. If the majority of fans are behind a move, I doubt the Vikes would lose much, if anything, in the way of corporate sponsorship by supporting Peterson if they got out in front of this thing and helped him to help himself (and more importantly, others).

I'm sure that poll pretty much just reflects local Vikings fans, and I think it's natural for Viking's fans to want AP back on the field as they would rather have a better chance at winning games. I wonder what a national poll would look like.

Raptorman wrote:There is a solution to this problem But, I would bet the NFL will drop the ball just like always. Peterson has already stated that he knows what he did was wrong. He has also stated that since the incident he has had classes/help on parenting and disciplining his children. And the court wants him to take more. Now, if the NFL was smart they would use this. Make a commercial with AP stating that even though he was disciplining his children the way he was, he now understands that in this day and age it is not acceptable. And that there are other ways to discipline children. Non-violent ways. And were to learn or get more information. That would do more than any punishment they ever deal out. Again, the NFL won't do it because they are reactive, not proactive.

that seems to be the obvious win win in this scenario.

not sure what is holding them back....
maybe it's not so obvious?

maybe it's in the works?

i don't want to assume the worst here....there can be no triumph nor redemption without adversity. we'll see eh?

Purple Reign wrote: I'm sure that poll pretty much just reflects local Vikings fans, and I think it's natural for Viking's fans to want AP back on the field as they would rather have a better chance at winning games. I wonder what a national poll would look like.

Well, since most other football fans have such a low feeling about the Vikings...........

Raptorman wrote:There is a solution to this problem But, I would bet the NFL will drop the ball just like always. Peterson has already stated that he knows what he did was wrong. He has also stated that since the incident he has had classes/help on parenting and disciplining his children. And the court wants him to take more. Now, if the NFL was smart they would use this. Make a commercial with AP stating that even though he was disciplining his children the way he was, he now understands that in this day and age it is not acceptable. And that there are other ways to discipline children. Non-violent ways. And were to learn or get more information. That would do more than any punishment they ever deal out. Again, the NFL won't do it because they are reactive, not proactive.

I could be wrong, but I haven't really seen any statement from Peterson where he says he knows what he did is wrong. He has admitted to being sorry for unintentionally hurting his child, but that's about it. He also originally said he was eager for this to go to court so he prove his innocence. Also, agreeing to a plea deal is not admitting what he did was wrong. If he has admitted this, can you post a link of a quote from him stating that?

Purple Reign wrote: I could be wrong, but I haven't really seen any statement from Peterson where he says he knows what he did is wrong. He has admitted to being sorry for unintentionally hurting his child, but that's about it. He also originally said he was eager for this to go to court so he prove his innocence. Also, agreeing to a plea deal is not admitting what he did was wrong. If he has admitted this, can you post a link of a quote from him stating that?

This is what I've seen:

"I want to say I truly regret this incident," Peterson said Tuesday after his deal was reached. "I stand here and I take full responsibility for my actions. I love my son more than any one of you can even imagine.

"I'm looking forward, and I'm anxious to continue my relationship with my child," he continued. "I'm just glad this is over. I can put this behind me, and me and my family can begin to move forward."

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/adrian-pet ... 59417.html

The best thing to me about his apology, aside from the accountability, is he makes no mention in that quote of rejoining the Vikings. He may have mentioned after, but in terms of just the apology itself, he was succinct about focusing on the issue itself and shows to me, that he wanted to right the wrong with his son and family before getting on to the football side of things. Small detail I thought shouldn't be overlooked. Obvious, but something most don't do.

dead_poet wrote:This is what I've seen:
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/adrian-pet ... 59417.html

Thanks for the link. That was an excellent editorial.

dead_poet wrote: http://sports.yahoo.com/news/adrian-pet ... 59417.html

That was a really evolved take on the whole conflict resolution situation. Dan Wetzel, good guy.

It's these issues that are social dynamite that require a different approach. If they fine and suspend Peterson further and do not use him to promote some kind of anti-violence campaign, it kinda sends a funky message.

Purple Reign wrote: I could be wrong, but I haven't really seen any statement from Peterson where he says he knows what he did is wrong. He has admitted to being sorry for unintentionally hurting his child, but that's about it. He also originally said he was eager for this to go to court so he prove his innocence. Also, agreeing to a plea deal is not admitting what he did was wrong. If he has admitted this, can you post a link of a quote from him stating that?

After it first happened he was quoted as saying that he has taken some type of class or something about how to discipline children. Now maybe I read into that he knew what he did was wrong or maybe he said it. But the fact remains that he started making changes to how he interacts with his kids before the indictment. If nothing else, that shows he knew that what he did was not up to today's standards of child rearing. I will see if I can find the quote. Of course, that's is not widely reported by the press.

Raptorman wrote:After it first happened he was quoted as saying that he has taken some type of class or something about how to discipline children. Now maybe I read into that he knew what he did was wrong or maybe he said it. But the fact remains that he started making changes to how he interacts with his kids before the indictment. If nothing else, that shows he knew that what he did was not up to today's standards of child rearing. I will see if I can find the quote. Of course, that's is not widely reported by the press.

I think you're referring to his original statement, which can be found here:

http://www.vikings.com/news/article-1/S ... 390b6a3fbf

This may be the part you were talking about:

I have to live with the fact that when I disciplined my son the way I was disciplined as a child, I caused an injury that I never intended or thought would happen. I know that many people disagree with the way I disciplined my child. I also understand after meeting with a psychologist that there are other alternative ways of disciplining a child that may be more appropriate.

He also said:

I have learned a lot and have had to reevaluate how I discipline my son going forward. But deep in my heart I have always believed I could have been one of those kids that was lost in the streets without the discipline instilled in me by my parents and other relatives. I have always believed that the way my parents disciplined me has a great deal to do with the success I have enjoyed as a man. I love my son and I will continue to become a better parent and learn from any mistakes I ever make.

Based on the contents of the statement and his subsequent remarks, it seems clear that he understands what he did was wrong and that he regrets it.

Mothman wrote: I think you're referring to his original statement, which can be found here:

http://www.vikings.com/news/article-1/S ... 390b6a3fbf

This may be the part you were talking about:
He also said:
Based on the contents of the statement and his subsequent remarks, it seems clear that he understands what he did was wrong and that he regrets it.

That's the one. I believe that was put out on the day of his indictment but it was lost in the shuffle of the press because of the TMZ postings. I read that and hear a man who realizes that what he did was not up to today's standards and has made decision to change his ways.

Purple Reign wrote: I'm sure that poll pretty much just reflects local Vikings fans, and I think it's natural for Viking's fans to want AP back on the field as they would rather have a better chance at winning games. I wonder what a national poll would look like.

Can't speak for the nation but here in Oklahoma it's pretty much unanimous that they want to see him play. In fact most don't even really get why he can't play, almost everyone I talked to here says they were disciplined the same way as kids and it's just how it is down here. Not saying anything more than that or getting into "right and wrong" but if you wanted some non minnesota perspective that's what I'm seeing here.